Do you know anything about British Empire and their background and please don’t Google it?
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22Michelle · 70-79, T
The history of the world is a history of Empires. Our views of those Empires are based on how distant they are from us, our own prejudices, our own nationality, ethnicity, religion and so forth. Some Empires were very stricktly about one ethnicity, religion, cult, etc. Others were multi cultural. However, arguing about what was a "good" or "bad" Empire is a cul de sac. Empires came and went. They mostly changed, often drastically, throughout their reign. Can you argue that a specific Empire achieved some good things, yes. Can you argue that some Empires did bad, evil things, yes. Will the view of some Empires change over time, as they already have, again yes.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@22Michelle They all end, eventually, as well...
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@ArishMell They end, they get conquered and / or replaced by a new Empire. We still have a Chinese Empire, a Russian Empire. We have, in a different / modern fashion an American Empire. I'd argue also that there is a Brazilian Empire, in fact much of South America is made up of Empires, countries drawn up on maps without any imput or agreement by native peoples - which is pretty much what an Empire is.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@22Michelle Interesting point; that the boundaries were never by the locals, or even existed previously.
Perhaps the Russian and Chinese Empires still exist, though in different forms from their pre-20C ones, because they were never free internally. They were and stil are ruled by autocrats determined to maintain their power.
Others simply fizzled out, like the Roman Empire, under internal collapse and external pressures from many directions.
Perhaps the Russian and Chinese Empires still exist, though in different forms from their pre-20C ones, because they were never free internally. They were and stil are ruled by autocrats determined to maintain their power.
Others simply fizzled out, like the Roman Empire, under internal collapse and external pressures from many directions.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@ArishMell Empires remain Empires even when they call themselves something else. Rusdia did start the process of allowing the likes of Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states the freedom to decide their own future, but under Putin that process has stopped and he wants those states back within the Empire.
China has, see Tibet, expanded their Empire and doesn't allow any of its subject peoples, the Uighurs, the freedom to devide their future.
Has Brazil allowed the native peoples of Amazonia the choice not to be part of Brazil, the borders of which were agreed between Portugal and Spain in 1494!
China has, see Tibet, expanded their Empire and doesn't allow any of its subject peoples, the Uighurs, the freedom to devide their future.
Has Brazil allowed the native peoples of Amazonia the choice not to be part of Brazil, the borders of which were agreed between Portugal and Spain in 1494!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@22Michelle I suppose despotic states become run by people who resent losing their country's former possessions.
I don't think the Uighurs were demanding separation from China, simply to be allowed to live by their traditions. Unlike the Tibetans who lost to a complete territorial conquest.
Even where the original imperial power not longer runs the place, that matter of imperial borders has often been a problem since.
I don't think the Uighurs were demanding separation from China, simply to be allowed to live by their traditions. Unlike the Tibetans who lost to a complete territorial conquest.
Even where the original imperial power not longer runs the place, that matter of imperial borders has often been a problem since.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@ArishMell Look at Africa, lines drawn on maos with no regard to the ethnicity, religion, etc., of the peoples. Since those countries gained independence how many have voluntarily broken up and / or changed their borders with neighbouring states to reflect the reality of the inhabitants.