Ukrainians want the West OUT!

@Gloomy Except the eastern part of Ukraine where 80% voted to join Russia. What I reported is from the area where Russia is not presently occupying. This has to be the stupidest war since the Libya. What is the purpose of it? The US/UK/EU/NATO pushed long and hard for theis war and now they are getting beaten badly. Sadly it is Ukraine that is paying the price. That is pure evil. Yankee go home.

@hippyjoe1955 Instead of voting to join Russia they could have just moved there also the legitimacy of those is in question.

[quote]This has to be the stupidest war since the Libya.[/quote]

Agree Putin should have stayed the fuck out of Ukraine

@Gloomy You have no idea what led up to this war. Did you ever hear about the genocide the Ukrainians were engaged in for several years before Russia invaded? 16,000 Ukrainians were killed by Ukraine because the peaceful Ukrainians spoke Russian at home. Zelenski was elected because he was the Peace Candidate. However once he was in power the death rate in Eastern Ukraine went up as Ukraine increased their random shelling of east Ukrainian settlements.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]16,000 Ukrainians were killed by Ukraine because the peaceful Ukrainians spoke Russian at home.[/quote]

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Wow you eat up Russian propaganda the allegations only came up in 2014 from Putin himself

@Gloomy Actually that information came from Ukraine. Do try to keep up. Things are not what your American propaganda tells you. You do look rather foolish. So when the US propaganda was in full force for covid shots how many did you take and do you still feel the same about them? American propaganda is rather pervasive. I learned about it during Vietnam. They could make the North Vietnamese the greatest threat to mankind since the bubonic plague. Then when the North beat the US the US blamed the South for not doing the job as the US ran bravely away. The north took over the south and in not to many years abandoned their communism and became a member of the world economy. Hmmmm. So what exactly did the US gain by Vietnam and every useless war it started since? Not much but the arms dealers got rich as did the very corrupt politicians. So can you tell me why the US invades Libya? Please answer honestly. Why the US invaded Libya. Then we can get back to discussing Ukraine and how the war would never have happened if the US had simply stayed home.

@Gloomy Ukraine is a pawn used by the US neocons who want war to get rich and weaken Russia. Go back to 1992 when the US said that NATO would not expand one inch eastward. Why is Ukraine on the verge of being admitted to NATO? What benefit would there be to Ukraine? NONE! NATO has nothing to offer Ukraine. However Ukraine becoming a member of NATO is a direct threat to Russia. So again why is the US pushing the war in Ukraine? What does the US hope to gain by arming Ukraine and paying for its government? Did you know that Zelenski is paid by the US? Did you know his security team is British? Probably not. You simply rely on American propaganda.

@hippyjoe1955 I can tell right now that you are literally vomiting verbiage from the EpochTimes,for real

@TrashCat I don't read the Epoch times. Nice try though. Care to try again? There are a lot of neutral sources out there. Sadly you only listen to the American propaganda arm aka CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, NYT etc etc etc.

@hippyjoe1955 oh dippy😂
That hit a button,huh? Epoch times and other Russian propaganda. Why you making up fake poll data?

@hippyjoe1955 I don’t like NATO but the benefit would probably have been no attack from Russia 😅

@TrashCat Epoch times is behind a paywall. I don't pay to read news I can find for free. Nice try though. TBH I had forgotten they even existed. Weren't hey big on site started by was it Bongino? It went broke a few months back. I looked at it once and found it boring and uninformative and every other post was by Epoch times behind a paywall.

@Gloomy No it was the cause for the attack from Russia. Why did Russia take Crimea? Because Ukraine was going to join NATO which would have left all the Russian bases in Crimea including the Black Sea Fleet in US (NATO) hands. Russia could not allow that to happen.

@hippyjoe1955 No idiot and by attacking Ukraine Russia lead even more countries into NATO

@Gloomy Such as? Russia was not a threat to anyone in Europe. It had no expansion plans had NATO not expanded eastward. Check the timeline. Everytime NATO moved eastward Russia warned that this would lead to war. Why did NATO expand into Finland? Now the Fins are finding out that NATO membership is not all that great a thing. It may cost the present government its rule as the average Finn sees the cost of living go up to pay for the military it didn't need when it was a neutral state.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]Why did NATO expand into Finland?[/quote]

Cause Finland got scared and felt threatened by Russias invasion and Finland had a strong military on its own already

@Gloomy Finland was never under threat from Russia. Do give you head a shake.

@hippyjoe1955 How do you know? Even if there was no direct threat from Russia the fact it invaded a sovereign country makes you lose trust in safety

@Gloomy if Finland eas under threat the Finn's would have armed themselves years ago. They didn't.

@hippyjoe1955 Finland has the 51st-most powerful military in the world. They are armed but in joining Nato Russia would open multiple fronts by attacking

@Gloomy and Russia was no threat since Finland was neutral.do try to use your head for more than an ear rack.

@hippyjoe1955 Neutrality doesn't make one safe. Ukraine wasn't part of Nato yet

@Gloomy Well joining a failing organization like NATO is a brain dead move.

@hippyjoe1955 Maybe but you could stop simping for shitty Russia that's at the mercy of China

@Gloomy You should stop listening to American propaganda. It is giving you a very distorted view of the world. America is in rapid decline. Its dollar is about to lose reserve currency status and should that happen the 1930s will seem like a walk in the park as all those fake dollars come home as worthless paper. Ever wonder what happened to the Weimar Republic? Its Marks became worthless on the world market. It was paying debt with paper and the world caught on. The US is about to enter this state and you think that the war in Ukraine is the US's biggest problem.