@SW-User And you have never been able to prove anything I have said because you can't run a search engine. Too Funny!. Here is a clue. To say there is a poll that says that 71% of Ukrainians want the west out is true. Is the poll accurate? Who knows! It is just a poll. It is not indicative of anything. What I do know from the Ukrainians who live in my neighborhood is that they want the war to end. While none of them like Russia none of them like Europe, America, or NATO either. They simply wish that both sides had stayed home and left Ukraine alone. Seems more than reasonable to me. I am not a fan of either side. I simply want the slaughter of young Ukrainians and Russians to stop. Estimates are that there are 20,000,000 Ukrainians who fled the country rather than fight for it. There have been 400,000 Ukrainians killed in action. I ask this simple question. To What End? Why is there a stupid war going on and the obvious reason is the US/UK/EU/ NATO crossed a Russian red line. Unlike Clinton Putin means what he says. Cross his red line and you will have a fight on your hands. Before 2008 there was peace in Ukraine. In 2014 there was a coup at the US's behest. Things have just gone down hill from there. Why you support the US is beyond me. They are a force for evil in the world at the moment. They love to start never ending wars that they run away from when they start to lose.