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spjennifer · 56-60, T
Like he ended the war in Afghanistan by making a deal with the Taliban to leave and give them everything they wanted? Sure DuhDonald, what a fucking 🤡 he is... 😖
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer didn't uncle Joe do that?
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore In the end, yes he did, but it was tRump who brokered the deal with the Taliban a year before Biden was elected. Biden simply did what tRump agreed to...
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer okay guy
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore Read something other than Fox or OAN and you will find the truth, it is out there...
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer so, your guy had to do whatever Trump said. For the record, I don't follow conservative leaning news.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore Not at all, we needed to get out of Afghanistain one way or another and all Biden did, good or bad, was to go along with tRump's plan, I never said it was a bad plan, it was the Cons who did that since it was Biden that implemented it...
@Notanymore As was said, Trump brokered the deal. If Biden hadn’t honored it, [b]that[/b] would’ve been an issue, since Trump was seen as having promised to "bring our military home". Biden actually gave more time for the withdrawal than was promised and was [b]still[/b] criticized for bringing them home "too abruptly".
So no, Biden couldn’t win, no matter what he did.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer at the same time he's pushing the atf to make a piece of plastic on my gun illegal, he gave isis some of the best battle implementation ever. That's not anybody's plan. That's crooked money laundering horseshit.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard he did exactly what he planned to do, in my opinion
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@bijouxbroussard Precisely, it wouldn't have mattered which President got our troops out of Afghanistan, they would have been criticized. Bush, Obama and tRump all had the opportunity to withdraw our troops, only Biden had the guts to actually get it done...
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer I'm all for getting people home and letting Afghanistan eat itself or build itself. Having US citizens and allies killed in the retreat, and arming ISIS was a terrible thing to do.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore How exactly did Biden

[quote]he gave isis some of the best battle implementation ever[/quote]

When tRump crowed about having conquered ISIS before Biden was even elected?
@Notanymore Then you should be mad at Traitor Tot.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer when he ordered the retreat.....and all of our munitions, helicopters, tanks, comms, night vision.....loads of everything was ordered abandoned. That's arming some of the most wicked people alive.
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spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore I was one of the 1st 1000 troops to arrive in Afghanistain in January of 2002 and served 4 tours there for a total of 2+ years until I retired in 2015. I can tell you that there were other entities who were arming both the Taliban AND ISIS, which btw are 2 very different groups with different agendas. We didn't "Arm" them , we left behind a bunch of worn out and obsolete equipment that wasn't worth bothering to pay to bring home, same as we did in Vietnam, it's not Like ISIS are going to drive those old HMV's across the Pacific to shoot at us is it...
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer I appreciate your service. But, I have seen the equipment left behind. It's not just worn out junk.....and much more adequate at killing than the old Kalashnikovs the enemy was using. That's why so many of their pictures have them equipped with our legitimate m4s
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore lol, most of the Taliban are illiterate and have trouble herding camels and you think they're going to be able to fly and maintain Helicopters???, We didn't leave much of any real value there and a lot of it was clapped out too. Anything of real value was taken out or destroyed before we left...
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer they have value when sold to Russia. And if I said Taliban, I apologize. By the best of my understanding most of our stockpiles were surrendered to ISIS. I could be wrong
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Notanymore The M4 wasn't deployed in Afghanistan until about 2011 and 2017 for the Jarheads and yes, we left a lot of them behind, M16's too. There are millions more AK's and the ammo for them than the M4/M16's and Afghanistan has no ammunition plants to make more, so far, once they run out of ammo, they will go back to the AK's. It was a shit show no matter how we exited, there were going to be some of us who wouldn't make it home, thankfully there weren't a lot more killed... The Taliban are the ones who are taking over, ISIS, like in many other countries are the real extremists and criminals and even the Taliban hunt them.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@spjennifer I personally like Russian ammo for an AR style reviewer. I don't have much experience with steel cased in a select fire assembly, but it does seem to work on modern semi autos well. Russia makes tons of it to sell to anyone
@spjennifer thank you. We appreciate your service.
walabby · 61-69, M
@Notanymore Staying in Afghanistan would have gotten a LOT more Americans killed.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@walabby I agree. Leaving weapons for the bad guys is pert Nye treason though
@Notanymore That would make Reagan a traitor, too—he armed Afghanistan in the beginning, against the Soviets.