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EvilEmma · F
not sure how much sense sending aircraft makes.. dont you need extensive training for the pilots too ?
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Training arming spare parts servicing fuel @EvilEmma

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I believe other countries should stop getting involved in other countries issues because it can cause problems later on
jimjim1969 · M
@SW-User So Russia should Leave Ukraine
@SW-User It can also cause a larger of problems later by not getting involved now.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
Not so much protecting cities,Ukraine will need to have air superiority over parts of the battlefield,it plans to use its new tanks,which i presume they will mass into one huge brigade,and blow all that Russian crap up they find.
One things all tanks are vulnerable to is air strike.The Russian SU 25(used by Ukraine too)is a specific tank destroyer aircraft,and Ukraine will need to protect its armoured forces from air attack.
ArtieKat · M
@wonkywinky [quote] i presume they will mass into one huge brigade[/quote] I think it's unlikely the Ukrainians will put all their eggs in one basket - given the tactics of how they destroyed the convoy of tanks on the road to Kyiv
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
@ArtieKat Well,the Ukrainians arent the inept Russians.In the intial part of the invasion,a lot of the Russian armoured units were left to run dry of fuel,and were immobile along forested roads where Ukraine troops were able to simply slip through the forest,picking them off with NLAW and Javelins..Tanks are offensive units,German Gen Guderian wrote the book on tank use,"Achtung-Panzer!"in which he basically worked out that tanks are best used en masse,with infantry,artillery and air attack-he conceived the idea of "Blitzkrieg"..Better to have 100 poor tanks in one formation than 100 good tanks spread out in 2s and 3s.The Russian infantry have never yet been attacked by these huge beasts,they will flee,when they see their own tanks going up in the air,maybe they will use them in smaller company units,of 15-20,but i reckon they will form one or two large battalions.
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
@wonkywinky Im no military ex general or anything,i do know a lot of WW2 history etc,and we are now in a similar war,so i guess you can kind of work out that what didnt work then,is unlikely to work now etc.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
The UK's history of non-intervention, appeasement didn't work out so well back around 1939, so...
justanothername · 51-55, M
@ChipmunkErnie Churchill got them sorted. He wasn’t about to let the Germans over run England.
Disposal · 36-40, M
Tbh we shouldn't had gotten involved in the first place
ArtieKat · M
@Disposal As I said to another person
[quote]The future security of all NATO countries depends on Putin's aggression being stopped now. He's a meglomaniac in the mould of Hitler.[/quote]
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ArtieKat · M
@Tres13 Yes Vlad, are you still scared of your own shadow? [quote]they have no military treaties [/quote] Look up the accord when Ukraine relinquished their nuclear weapons
We walk a fine line on this one. We should give us much support as we can without looking like we are to be tacitly involved. Fighter jets are expensive, less effective (without major training or flying them ourselves [tacitly involved],) and what we have provided (in the billions of dollars worth) has been hugely successful already. He’s in a position that he needs to ask for what he asks for, but we are in a position where we must be cautious unless we truly want a World War III.
Morvoren · F
Yes we should. I’m not sure that we could however as there’s hardly a surplus given all the defence cuts.
On this issue...
But the Russian Embassy in London was quick to respond, issuing a statement warning the British government that a decision to provide the warplanes would be "on London's conscience" because of the "bloodshed, next round of escalation, and subsequent military and political ramifications for the European continent and the entire globe".
wonkywinky · 51-55, M
@TheSirfurryanimalWales No-one is afraid of your ragtag soldiers and tintoy tanks anymore Vlad.Its the 21st century,not the 1960s.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Putin will destroy them as he will with the tanks

Besides they haven’t a clue on how to fly them More Ukraine’s will die in fighting NATO proxy war
Tres13 · 51-55, M
what You gonna do when they come for you Zelensky
ArtieKat · M
@Tres13 What ever you say, Vlad! You would have been a wow in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Scraping the barrel there son That’s Hollywood shit or is that. how u live@ArtieKat
romell · 51-55, M
No economic times are bad free gifting of hardware could screw own defense preparedness
romell · 51-55, M
@ArtieKat typical ding bat response
ArtieKat · M
@romell And you, sir, sound increasingly like one of Putin's trolls.
romell · 51-55, M
@ArtieKat carry on in your ignorance
I'm sure the English have had enough of it! This planet is nothing to cling to. Getting it over with sounds fine,-. Like Brexit.
We're certainly not going to stop you or the USA!
Booooom.
ArtieKat · M
@Roundandroundwego Thanks for that threat, little Vlad. I'm sure they can find room in a secure unit for you.

 
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