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Russian retreat...Germany still expect Russian victory

New York Times

Russia retreats from Kharkiv
Russia acknowledged that it had lost much of Kharkiv, a military stronghold, as Ukraine’s lightning advance took back over 1,000 square miles of land and a key military hub. Russia has now retreated from a wide section of Ukrainian territory that it had earlier seized, rattling Kremlin cheerleaders and amplifying calls for more weapons to be sent to Ukraine.

The retreat is the biggest embarrassment for Russia’s larger and better equipped forces since their attempt to seize Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, was repelled at the start of the invasion. Amid heavy casualties, logistical problems and declining morale in Russia’s military, its performance has prompted discontent among staunch loyalists to Vladimir Putin, the president.

Though victory for Ukraine is still far from certain, a widespread assumption, both inside and outside Russia, that Russia would inevitably triumph in the end seems to be collapsing. Ukraine’s counteroffensive has also undermined arguments in places like Germany that providing more arms to Ukraine would lead only to a long stalemate against a Russian military destined to win.
New York Times Tuesdsy
Ukraine’s next moves
Ukraine said yesterday that it had reclaimed more ground in the war with Russia, and it redoubled its calls for Moscow to surrender in the south. Ukraine’s next steps could determine the near-term course of the war. A false move could squander the opportunities available, but waiting too long could allow the front lines to freeze as winter sets in.

By expelling Russian troops from a large slice of strategic territory in the northeastern Kharkiv region, Ukrainian forces are now positioned to make a move on the Donbas, nearly 90 percent of which is controlled by Russia. If Ukraine were to retake even a part of the region, it would be an embarrassing blow to the Kremlin.

Pushing beyond the Donbas could come with potentially significant pitfalls, straining supplies and leaving Ukrainian units vulnerable, though military experts said a Russian counterattack might not happen. Russian officials face hard questions over the retreat, especially with a growing backlash to their “special military operation” from pro-war voices at home.
Ontheroad · M
While Russia does not possess a modernized military with stockpiles of arms, supplies, a good logistical/resupply system and hundred of thousands of well trained military, it does have a military adequate in numbers and training to take the Ukraine.

It all boils down to what Putin does and what the people of Russia will stand for before they revolt.
Poppies · 61-69, F
If Russia is continuously humiliated by conventional weaponry will they break out the tactical nukes? And then what will Ukraine's allies do?
SW-User
@Poppies it will be interesting to see how the Kremlin is willing to go, even if, say, it becomes clear that portions of the federation may look at the Ukraine invasion and revisit notions of breaking away (Chechnya and others come to mind).

Maybe NATO should say that if Russia goes nuclear, Ukraine is automatically inducted into NATO, and a doctrine akin to mutually-assured destruction is once again served up as a deterrent.
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Soooo a stalemate is when peeps cant go forward right? If the red armys retreating theres no stalemate hahaha ik how chess works
@TryingtoLava Exactly
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-scrambles-to-marshal-russian-forces-as-ukraine-army-reaches-border/ar-AA11Jxef?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8ff19f948b754beb827eb22df142f16e
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
it baffles me that they still haven't won

 
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