TangledUpInBlue · F
I was in the Kruger two months ago. And although the animals were great I was disappointed in some of the camps. Not really upgraded and very over priced. Also the surrounding areas like Bourkes luck and gods window were neglected. At the potholes the museum looked like it hadn’t been updated since 78. The bathrooms were broken and locked etc etc .
Pilgrims rest is dead….business there were telling me how they struggle. etc etc.
I was a little embarrassed that so many international tourists who go there would see that. But I guess there is no money to upgrade those buildings as the politicians are hungry.
It’s still a beautiful country though, I agree.
Pilgrims rest is dead….business there were telling me how they struggle. etc etc.
I was a little embarrassed that so many international tourists who go there would see that. But I guess there is no money to upgrade those buildings as the politicians are hungry.
It’s still a beautiful country though, I agree.
Waxfoot · 56-60, M
@TangledUpInBlue this is so true and so sad that it’s laughable at times but it’s the same in a lot of places
TangledUpInBlue · F
@Waxfoot yeah…sorry about those typos. Anyway it’s true, it’s hard to stay positive about SA when things are declining around us. Durban’s beachfront pools buggered. They could have used the ‘national dialogue’ money to fix that for example. Although I appreciate what the poster said about our country and agree, I would also venture to say that this neglect will and is affecting our tourism which affects jobs and crime and so on. And eventually the scenery. Until the only places that are maintained are private and very expensive. Yes we do shop and go places and live life normally. We pay exorbitant prices for private security, insurance, safety , car safety( those that can afford it). International tourists who would possibly come and spend resources hear about this and they’d say nah, rather go to Kenya for example.
Tourists who visit South Africa often go to places like Cape Town, the Garden Route, or Kruger National Park. These are well-established tourist destinations with security and infrastructure in place, and they are generally safe if you follow the same basic precautions you would anywhere in the world!
That’s exactly what I did and had a wonderful, memorable time. I have family heading there next month. Does the country have problems? Of course. But the generalizations remind me of people terrified to visit the US right now. Yes we have plenty of issues but I find it pretty silly to avoid most of the incredibly wonderful, memorable places and people because of those issues.
TangledUpInBlue · F
@OlderSometimesWiser glad you had a good time. Where did you go?
Donotfolowme · 51-55, F
I am not against any country because I am a traveller. I love traveling and visiting new places/countries/cities.
I have been to almost all of the famous destinations in the World and yes precaution is needed everywhere.
Having said that my Africa trip was a disaster to the point that I had to cut it short and run.
Also, everyone will present the picture of the place according to their personal experience and not by the book.
If someone had an amazing experience they would praise it, even though others experienced it differently.
It's good that you are trying to clear the air around the perception of the country although the reality and real life experiences won't change.
I have been to almost all of the famous destinations in the World and yes precaution is needed everywhere.
Having said that my Africa trip was a disaster to the point that I had to cut it short and run.
Also, everyone will present the picture of the place according to their personal experience and not by the book.
If someone had an amazing experience they would praise it, even though others experienced it differently.
It's good that you are trying to clear the air around the perception of the country although the reality and real life experiences won't change.
Logybear50 · 46-50, F
@Donotfolowme Fully agree, just want to discourage sweeping statements 💕
TangledUpInBlue · F
Well said. I just wonder for how much longer it will be ok. I think we have become slightly desensitised as to how locked up and traumatised we are as a nation. We don’t get phased by certain things anymore. However it would still be shocking for foreigners to see. Thanks for the positive vibes.
Logybear50 · 46-50, F
I've lived here all my life and changes are happening everywhere
TangledUpInBlue · F
@Logybear50 same - however it’s becoming worse all the time. As you know.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
This is quite true.The Capetown white culture is different historically to the Johannesburg white culture, resulting in a very different feel to the whole place. I cant speak to Durban, apart from hearing it was humid..😷
View 3 more replies »
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TangledUpInBlue Hospitality and professional courtesy. But strictly business..The disparity of wealth is difficult to feel comfortable with..😷
TangledUpInBlue · F
@whowasthatmaskedman yes…it’s vast and terrible - our previous government’s fault, our current government isn’t making it any better, but even worse.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TangledUpInBlue That does seem to be the way of the world right now. And SA started very much behind the eight ball. Unlike some other countries that have no excuse..😷
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Of all the countries in the world, South Africa wouldn't be a country that I would avoid.
It might not be my first destination, yet I most certainly wouldn't avoid it, like many others.
If my sister-in-law could travel there in the 1960s I most certainly could now.
It might not be my first destination, yet I most certainly wouldn't avoid it, like many others.
If my sister-in-law could travel there in the 1960s I most certainly could now.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer India? No way! China? Who wants to be spied on? South Africa would definitely be a better destination.
StygianKohlrabi · M
I've been attacked numerous times and I read some tourist wandered into the wrong town and got shot. I'm sure that would be me.
TangledUpInBlue · F
@Logybear50 I agree, for me, I think besides the crime, it’s the general downfall of everything around us. I used to be so positive about SA, I love it here. Lately, I don’t know man, I feel like having a cyanide pill at the handy for just in case could be an option.
StygianKohlrabi · M
@TangledUpInBlue how are the police there? I'm sure even worse than here in America. that's saying a lot.
TangledUpInBlue · F
@StygianKohlrabi they take forever to respond, can be bribed, don’t answer the phone, are underpayed, corrupt (obviously not all) . So not having dealt with American cops, I can’t say. There are good cops but the system is so dodge that it’s hard for them to counter.
South Africa and Russia have a history of diplomatic relations that dates back to the post-apartheid era, with South Africa being the first African nation to recognize the Russian Federation in 1991. The two countries have since strengthened their ties through trade agreements and cooperation in various sectors, including military and economic partnerships, particularly as members of the BRICS alliance.
TangledUpInBlue · F
@JamesBugman ok. And?
@TangledUpInBlue Did you know South Africa was a Putin supporter?
TangledUpInBlue · F
@JamesBugman Yes I did. Palestine too. And Iran….
Infamous607 · 51-55, M
I have a feeling you might be desensitized and have normalized internally the chaos your country is in .
Logybear50 · 46-50, F
@TangledUpInBlue Usually whites and non whites in South Africa have different views about things in South Africa, especially the older generation. We see things differently due to our history. No offence meant☺
TangledUpInBlue · F
@Logybear50 I know what people’s opinions are, however you should watch the news, o offence meant either.
Infamous607 · 51-55, M
@TangledUpInBlue I know my friend. Weve had this conversation many times before.
bijouxbroussard · F
Our current president has given Afrikaners sanctuary here because he believes (and is spreading the misinformation) that they are being targeted for genocide. 😔
TangledUpInBlue · F
@Logybear50 lol it’s not my opinion lady. Are you even South African> tell me then what is your opinion? Prove anything that I said as an opinion piece? Prove me wrong, please …I’d very much like to be wrong on this.
What province are you in?
What province are you in?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard White South Africans are also settling in Australia and NZ..Generally speaking financially well established..😷
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Similar to most other countries. Maybe they don't have as many losers randomly shooting up concerts, shopping areas, job sites etc.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
In the past decade has the quality life improved or went down ? In the next decade do you see your quality of life going up or down ?
romell · 51-55, M
[media=https://youtu.be/U3fPD9sFXUg?si=j0rW4VauYV8TUwkc]
Logybear50 · 46-50, F
@Nitedoc Well I see the glass half full 😊
This message was deleted by its author.
TangledUpInBlue · F
@romell cash in transit happens all the time here. Our murder rate is at 65 or something a day. That’s crazy for the population (legal) of 63 million. Still we live and try our best and survive and there are Beautiful places and friendly people.