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The migrant crisis in Italy 🇮🇹

While Rome has not experienced widespread Muslim-perpetrated violence on the scale of some other European cities, there have been instances of violence and terrorism linked to extremist groups, and tensions surrounding immigration and integration.

Specific instances and broader context:

Terrorist attacks:
Though Italy has not faced major jihadi attacks on the scale of France or the UK, there have been concerns about jihadi activity and potential attacks. The Islamic State has also targeted Rome in its propaganda, though this has not translated into large-scale attacks.

Extremist groups:
There have been reports of extremist groups recruiting for and plotting attacks, as well as individuals being expelled for links to violent extremist Islamist groups.

Anti-immigrant sentiment:
Italy has seen a rise in anti-immigrant sentiment and Islamophobia, particularly in relation to the influx of migrants from North Africa, which has contributed to societal tensions.

Clashes with police:
There have been reports of clashes between Muslim migrants and police in Rome, highlighting the challenges of integration and public safety.

Attacks on Islamic sites:
There have also been incidents of violence against Islamic places of worship in Italy, including arson attacks.

Peace rallies:
In the wake of terrorist attacks in other countries, like Paris, Muslim communities in Rome have organized peace rallies to condemn violence and dissociate themselves from extremist groups.

Overall, the situation is complex:

Not all Muslims are extremists:
It is crucial to remember that the actions of a few do not represent the entire Muslim population.
Social and political factors:
Political rhetoric, social tensions, and historical factors all play a role in shaping the narrative around Muslim violence and integration.

Focus on coexistence:
Efforts to promote dialogue, understanding, and peaceful coexistence between different religious and cultural groups are essential for addressing the challenges of integration and preventing further violence, according to some reports.
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What 'jihadi' attacks are you referring to in the UK? The most recent widespread attacks here haven't been by Muslims. This is such a typical fear mongering response. Exactly what fueled the riots last year.

You're perpetuating anti Muslim rhetoric that has been rampage in the west ever since 9/11.
A lot of Muslim youths are socially disenfranchised and marginalised as a result. It breeds a self fulfilling prophecy. People don't even realise how they're creating the very thing they fear. You can't point fingers to normal everyday people, push them to the small margins of society and then not expect it to breed anti social behaviour which is by no means as aggressive or widespread as people are even made to believe. A lot of issues are internalised like they are for everyone else. Muslims are no exceptions.

Contrary to popular belief, this isn't a religious problem, if it was, Christians and Jews alike would be deemed just as much of a threat considering the foundations of all three faiths are pretty much the same. It's about orchestrated chaos, a group to scapegoat because it keeps the rich rich and others a sense of control they don't even have.
wildland · M
@HijabaDabbaDoo Exactly. It's no help at all and is simply a thinly veiled anti-Muslim polemic.
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ArtieKat · M
@HijabaDabbaDoo I wasn't intending to get involved in a discussion about this but I can't accept your claim that
It's about orchestrated chaos, a group to scapegoat because it keeps the rich rich and others a sense of control they don't even have
. I'm sure you are a reasonable person but if the majority of the Muslim community in Britain had integrated (to a greater extent) there wouldn't be a problem. If the perpetrators of the grooming gangs hadn't been shielded by members of their own community but had been reported to the police there would not be this level of distrust.
@NativePortlander1970 you do know the story you're sharing is what caused the nation wide riot? Misinformation and assumptions. It was not a Muslim man. He was Christian, but because he was black, that was enough for everyone to run with the story of him being Muslim. Try again
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ArtieKat · M
@HijabaDabbaDoo I'm sorry but that sort of evasion won't work any more. I'm the grandchild of immigrants - I know how it works.
@ArtieKat no culture is without fault. I know what needs to progress in mine. Do you not see the fault in seeing it as a Muslim problem? How many Muslims are there from all walks of life? Which ones are the problem again?
ArtieKat · M
@HijabaDabbaDoo I'm not singling Muslims out for being Muslims - what I am suggesting is that immigrants have a duty to be sensitive to the norms of the host nation. Sharia Law has no place in 21st Century Britain. When even Keir Starmer can come out and acknowledge that the indigenous British population feel like strangers in their own land, it's time for radical action to facilitate integration.
@ArtieKat The other muslims are ignoring their extremist bretheren's atrocities, making them complicit.
ArtieKat · M
@NativePortlander1970 Have you found out yet who Stephen Yaxley is?
@ArtieKat You brought up the name, you provide the info, it is NOT my job to do yours
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wildland · M
@ArtieKat
When even Keir Starmer can come out and acknowledge that the indigenous British population feel like strangers in their own land

No he didn't. He said that the UK risks "becoming a nation of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together"

He then apologised, even though his words were only tangentially connected with Powell's rivers of blood speech.

And what's your point about Steven Yaxley-Lennon (i.e. Tommy Robinson)?
ArtieKat · M
@wildland I stand corrected on

No he didn't. He said that the UK risks "becoming a nation of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together"