Why are Israel getting away with it ?

@VeronicaJane So you don't know a thing about the history of Israel? Why does that not surprise me. Were there no Israel there would be no wars.

@hippyjoe1955 Oh, IDK, How far back BC do you you want to go. True, they were subjugated by the Romans. But Palestine is a relatively recent thing after the British mandate. So, are you advocating that Israel shouldn't exist?

@VeronicaJane Not only are the Zionists not ethnic Jews they are killing people who actually are ethnic Jews. When Jerusalem fell not many people left the land. Most just stayed where they were and carried on with life. Many became Christian and a few hundred years later others became Muslim. They lived in peace one with another. However some people whose ancestors converted to Talmudic Judaism a thousand years after Jesus rose from the dead decided that they needed to steal land. Of course stealing land is kind of hard when the land owner is defending himself so best to kill him then steal his land. Thus Israel has been doing that since 1948. Sadly the Europeans decided that they needed help so they conned a bunch of Americans to support them. The Europeans did that rather stealthily by adding interpretive notes to the American's Bibles. It worked. The American worship of the Bible did them in and thus you have American blind support for a people committing genocide.

God’s mercy and goodness will win through, though it is hard to see it.

@hippyjoe1955 post WW2 Europe decided they didn’t want a massive numbers of shell shocked Jews wandering the euro countryside that they would never re absorb. They wanted them gone .

@AthrillatheHunt Zionism started long before WWII. It was the talk of the town 100 years before that.

@hippyjoe1955 no doubt, it was the visual of wandering emaciated shell shocked homeless Jews begging in every town after the war that Europe didn’t want. They didn’t want to reabsorb these citizens . Ship them out was the call

@AthrillatheHunt The average European was almost as bad off. Here in Canada we had a huge influx of German and Dutch people who had suffered under Hitler. The idea of a nation called Israel predated it and while the genocide by Germany gave a bit more impetus to it starving Jews was not the reason. The European elites didn't care about starvation of their people.

@AthrillatheHunt Russia did not want them, nor did the USA. But the USA was prepared to pay Christian Arabs in Palestine for their land.

England of course was on post war rations, paying for post war refugees in their sector in Germany, who were better fed than in England

@peterlee we tried to take in the cream of the crop . Some came to US, most went to what was then called Palestine

@AthrillatheHunt anyway they had been treated very badly and needed a home. We must not forget that.

@peterlee you’re preaching to the choir . I’m a non Jew who lived in Israel when I was younger

@peterlee So about those people who were killed or displaced or driven out of their homes so Europe wouldn't have to face the evils it did?????

@hippyjoe1955 Germany is still paying reparations 75 years later and STILL has no standing army . What do you mean not have to face what they did ?

@AthrillatheHunt Instead of opening their doors and saying to the Jews you can live here in peace Europe sent the Jews to a distant land where the Jews displaced a huge population killing many, stealing their land and their homes and their orchards. Instead of one genocide we created two genocides.

@hippyjoe1955 did you even read what I wrote ? I gave 2 huge consequences . What do you mean not face what they did ?

@hippyjoe1955 stole it ? who was there before the Jews ? Cro magnons?

@AthrillatheHunt Actually the people living in the land were descendants of Abraham. When Jerusalem fell in 70 AD most jews just stayed where they were. Of course many had already converted to Christianity and many more did in the ensuing centuries. After Mohammed some also converted to Islam but they were the same gene pool. The same can not be said of the European Jews whose ancestors converted to Talmudic Judaism a thousand years ago. So the Europeans have no ancestral claim on the land while those living there prior to 1900 do have ancestral claim on the land. Sadly the same European raciism we saw in the forming of the British empire and the French empire and the Spanish empire carries on in the European Jewish Empire called Israel. Even the Jews are divided into classes. The white Jews have much more status than the brown or black Jews.

@hippyjoe1955 I agree with most of that. The Spanish empire was born from their land being conquered by religious zealots for centuries , and the ensuing reconquest of their peninsula , called the inquisition

@AthrillatheHunt We are discussing Israel and I simply brought up the topic to give a demo of European conceits. Sadly there are millions of people displaced and being starved to death in Gaza now. There is also conflict in the West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran. Notice one thing? The one common element is Israel. Someone much smarter than me said that if you get divorced once it could be you spouse that was the cause. If you are divorced twice it is your fault. Israel can not live in peace with the nations around it. What does that say about Israel? Kind of like the silly idea the the US has as it rushes around the world starting useless wars.

@hippyjoe1955 Your so right . Before Israel all Muslim nations got along with their non Muslim neighbors . Just ask anyone from India pre 1948. There was also no infighting among Muslims either till 1948.