So the Israeli forces invaded the Gazan hospital

@specman So when the Israeli air force bombed the civilians heading south as per Israel's instructions that was an accident? So when they destroyed the hospital despite finding NO HAMAS anywhere near the hospital that was an accident. So when the IDF bombed the Red Cross convoy that was an accident. That is an awful lot of accidents and the result is 10s of thousands dead civilians including many Christians. Not that the religion makes any difference. Dead is dead. BTW more Israelis were killed by Israel Oct 7 than were killed by Hamas.

@hippyjoe1955 Palestinians are in a war zone there’s no two ways about it some are going to get killed. Israel admitted that right then they were not do a very good job of avoiding civilian casualties. Although the Hamas are using them as human shields by dispersing among civilians. That hospital in question they have interviewed doctors that have said Hamas wasn’t there then they also interviewed some doctors that were saying Hamas is there. So stop with the conspiracy theories about genocide.

@specman No conspiracy theory. over 10,000 dead Gazans. That is genocide. Everyone knew that there was no Hamas in the hospital and the tunnels under it were built by Israel in 1983

@specman Yeah it is. Nice try though.

@hippyjoe1955 genocide is:
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

They are not trying to destroy anything except the killing of Hamas. I guess you could call everyone’s war on terror genocide.

@specman I agree. Israel is committing genocide by that definition.

@hippyjoe1955 you don’t even have a clue do ya!

@hippyjoe1955 on it’s war with Hamas

@specman Right back at you. Israel is the aggressor in this conflict and has been for years. They are presently committing genocide. They have put these people into a concentration camp and are now invading it and attacking innocent people. over 10,000 dead civilians. GENOCIDE!

@hippyjoe1955 it has been back and forth between them. They swap as who was the aggressor. Hamas is the aggressor. It just so happens Israel is kicking the aggressors ass!

@specman No Israel has been the aggressor since 1948. It is under the control of some zionist fanatics that even most Israelis don't support.

@hippyjoe1955 no

@specman Yeah it is true. Bibi is under the control of some real fanatics that believe Israel should be forever fully Jewish. There is legislation on the drawing boards that would prevent Christian preaching

@hippyjoe1955 Look I stand behind God’s chosen people. No matter what you claim.

@specman So you stand behind Christians or Jews? Both are called. Don't forget that the Bible clearly says that there are no longer Jews nor Gentiles for all are one in Christ Jesus the Lord. A lot of people get hung up on the same point but are they justified in doing so are they simply going with the narrative set out by a bunch of fanatical Zionists? The fact is that the Ultra Orthodox Jews don't believe Israel should exist as a nation. Hmmmm

@hippyjoe1955 Israel is God's chosen ones. It says in the Bible that God is unchangeable. So did his words or beliefs change?

@specman Christians are God's chosen. It says so in the Bible. The Jews were His chosen back in the day but no longer. Paul who was a Jew said as much as he tried to bring Jews to know Jesus. Did you know that Israel is working on legislation stopping the preaching of the Christian Gospel?

@hippyjoe1955 I will reply to you later. I have to do something. This is turning into a good discussion rather or not you agree I don't know.

@specman I always enjoy a good discussion.

@specman Looking forward to hearing from you again but before we resume our discussion please watch this.video.

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@specman or this one (a bit longer but just as fascinating.

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@hippyjoe1955 I will respond just been busy.

@specman What basis do you decide that this is disinformation? Because it runs counter to what you want to believe? Because it runs counter to the MSM narrative? Because it runs counter to your religion or religious teachings? Please enlighten.