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I Am More Than Revolted By Israel Behaving Like Nazis

Hold On For A Moment...
Do you people have any notion what the behavior of truly hideous governments like the Nazis or the Communists was like? Not only have the Israelis not behaved like the Nazis, they haven't behaved like the Muslims.
I don't idealize the Israelis. I don't think Israel is as good a country as the U.S., the U.K., Scandinavia, or the British dominions. But Israel has a fundamental decency and is a far better country than any of the --pardon me for the truth-- dog-eat-dog countries of the Third World. And the same journalists and academics who villify Israel tell us we should think more highly of the Arab/ Islamic world, where many people murder their own daughters if they perceive them to be going astray and murder their own sons under Islamic sharia law if they convert to Christianity. Give me a break!
I ask you be honest : would you rather be a Jew who has fallen into the hands of the Arabs or an Arab who has fallen into the hands of the Israelis?
rescue3
Don't forget that in the past. Some were found dresing up as Israelites and filming themselves doing very evili like ordeals for propaganda. Though I imagine many countries have been known to do this.
I think many countries can be portrayed as evil if you so wish. Look at the country I love so much and have defended with my life in jeapordy. Only to have fellow soldiers found to be doing grotesct things to captives that MOST in our country would never do. Yet the USA can now be represented with "so call proof" of how monstrous it is. It's all in how things are posted by whom.
I believe NO ONE is innocent on both sides. I think they are caught up in an eye for an eye and disrespect the other side when you can ideals. It's all bad. Just don't believe everything you see or even what you know as real as a "the BRAUD SPECTRUM" of how it is normaly.
As far as the Doctor harvesting organs goes. How does that hold an ENTIRE country at fault? In that case all the world has a NAZI mindset. It would be easy once this was proven to take it a step further and dress up as the other side and film such a thing to make it look like everyone was doing it.
It is discusting that it may have ever happened though. I can't hold all of one country responsible for it though. If so, then just nuke my country now! We are every bit as guilty then.
I don't know that there are any countries where honor killings of women are legal. But I don't know of any Muslim country where this has been a problem where the government has made the concerted effort to stamp it out that should be made. Therefore you have to hold the governments somewhat culpable. The most romanticized Muslims of all are the Palestinians and my impression (I'll take correction if I'm wrong) is that their problem with honor killings is as bad as it gets.

And I must comment in passing that I find it extremely bizarre that female circumcision-- even the less drastic variety in which the clitoris is amputated but the labia are left intact--is the ob<x>ject of more international outrage than honor killings! Someone explain that to me. What's more important, sexual sensations or life?

Israel should have more pride than to be so dependent on the U.S. But with all those high-IQ, highly educated Jews, no way Israel would ever be a Third world country. What you mention about the wealth of Israel's neighbors is interesting though, in light of how the Arab world's economic growth was said not many years ago to sunk down to roughly the level of sub-Saharan Africa. People talk about "failed states." What we have here is virtually a failed civilization.
AlternateSource
Most of the previous posts in this topic have been deleted by their perspective authors. A great flame war occurred here. It is not my wish to spark this up again. I post these definitions to give thought to the use of the word in question:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Nazi

Nazis
1. (Historical Terms) a member of the fascist National Socialist German Workers' Party, which was founded in 1919 and seized political control in Germany in 1933 under the Austrian-born German dictator Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
2. Derogatory anyone who thinks or acts like a Nazi, <b>esp showing racism, brutality, etc</b>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

The term Nazi has become a generic term of abuse in popular culture, as have other Third Reich terms such as Führer (often spelled differently in English-speaking countries). Related terms (such as fascist or Gestapo or Hitler) are sometimes <b>used to describe any people or behaviors that are viewed as thuggish, authoritarian, or extremist</b>. Phrases such as grammar Nazi, feminazi, and parking enforcement Nazi, are sometimes used in the United States, Europe and Latin America. These uses are offensive to some, as indicated by the controversy in the mainstream media over the Seinfeld “Soup Nazi” episode.
amberdextrous
I agree with your point that it is ridiculous to compare Israel with Nazism or any other totalitarian system, cc. It is intellectual laziness and dishonesty. But I take issue with your portrayal of Israel's neighbours as third World countries, and with your implication that the governments of these countries sanction the murdering of daughters or of Christian-convert sons. These are cultural, rather than political issues, and I am certain you will find extreme religious views among Israeli people that are not supported by their government.

With its paucity of natural resources, Israel would be a Third World country were it not for the billions of dollars in aid it receives each year from the US government. Most of its neighbours, by contrast, have oil and gas reserves which support their economies.
Caliper
How would you describe the Israeli soldiers going around harvesting organs of dead and living Palestinians for sell. Morbid Monsters? There's a whole page on youtube videos about these accusations pointed at the Israeli solders in Gaza? A Swedish Journalist was one of the first to report it from an accepted western source.How would you feel about your love ones body dumped on your doorstep with his body field dressed like a fresh killed deer? War and hate is one thing but this has gone to a different level.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Organ+harvests+in+Gaza&search_type=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N7helZU-OU&feature=PlayList&p=4EB505C2CED43A67&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32
Vivagalore
While I find the name of this group completely inappropriate and fictious, I find stereotyping Muslims just as offensive.

Also to state that the countries which oppose Isreal as dog eat dog 3rd world nations is just ignorate.

Why people insist on opposing hate of one group with hate is beyond me.

Someone who would classify Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Dubai, the UAE or Iran as 3rd world nations clearly shows a lack of knowledge
This story does not promote hate. I point out real problems. You think when you talk about "rape culture" you are not promoting hate but pointing out real problems. DA, I don't have a lack of knowledege about the Middle eastern countries you name. If you knew more about me you would realize you have egg on your face there.
Vivagalore
I wasn't attacking your article, or you. I was commenting on the name of the group.
Additionaly I was correcting your stereotype of muslim countries.
Let's work together on our common ground on supplements, Caliper.

In the meantime I don't have time to chase down these accusations on YouTube; too much other stuff has piled up. But when I hear really sensational allegations like this against the Israelis or whoever else, my prudent starting point is skepticism. When I think about some of the ridiculous crap that's come from American journalists over the years, hearing mention of a Swedish journalist doesn't move me much. If this stuff is substantiated, I will recognize it as such.
Al-Qaida was pretty well-known, including by me, back in the 1990s under the Clinton administration.

It's not really just or appropriate for people to call anything they don't like or that really is indefensible "nazi." A lot of people may do it, but that still doesn't make it right.

I consider myself as good as anyone else in choosing my sources of info on the Internet, radio, TV, newspapers, books, magazines, and journals. I can tell the difference between facts and mere attitude.
LeisaWolf
We're all under regimes who behave like nazis right now, don't you guys get it? It's been years since the Jews faced them, and they have killed far more people other than Jews since that happened, millions. You can deny it, but Israel has been acting like Nazis, to another people. How could they kill ANYONE, and take their land, when they are so full of pity for themselves for what happened to their people? It defies logic.
"2. Derogatory anyone who thinks or acts like a Nazi, esp showing racism, brutality, etc"
If the freedictionary.com says that, the freedictionary.com is an ass.

There was so much more to the Nazis than just showing racism and brutality.

Wikipedia's article correctly portrays the substantial resistance to the promiscuous use of the term.
Caliper
On an Arab website a while ago, it was stated that some Arabs were shot, had their hands strapped to the front of a military vehicle and gutted right on the street, yes to the horror of all who could see it. After the Rabbi was caught marketing organs in the States, I now feel there is truth to these horror stories.
OK, but characterize things accurately.

But some things , I don't excuse, I agree with. When you know where the terrorists who have killed and will kill are--Go after them! Just like we do with al-Qaida.
AlternateSource
Harvesting organs in the street?
This clip is at the same location:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SLBeRd_YLc&feature=PlayList&p=F35CA82327F7809F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12
AlternateSource
Indeed, there is far more to involved.
The usage is noted as derogatory.

It is agreed by many that the usage is ill conceived,
I posted the links to show that it is not unheard of.
Manolito101
I think the Isrealis and Arabs are worth each other, they're all the same ignorant and intollerable people/religious zealots!
LeisaWolf
Of COURSE we have a clue, or we would not be against it all...breaking little boys' arms for throwing rocks, how sick is that?
puck61
Israel bashing is en vogue., unfortunately.
Where did you read this, squigglefish?
AlternateSource

 
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