KunsanVeteran · M
Exactly correct!
I posted just moments ago in the Politics forum a CNN video that compares Demented Donnie’s approval rating to GWB’s after he got us involved in two wars (Iraq & Afghanistan) and tRUMP’s approval rating among independent voters was 12 % below GWB’s at a similar point in their terms (although both were underwater).
And Demented Donnie launched a preemptive attack after claiming six months earlier that Iran’s nuclear fuel enrichment program had been obliterated! When pressured for an answer as to why (what was the specific threat) all he said was that he felt very strongly that Iran would pursue an imminent attack on the US—an allegation his own Intel Services say there is no evidence to support.
And President Clinton is correct: when you do something so foolish & dangerous you own ALL the consequences that are the fallout.
And we won’t even get into his laughable lie that Iran fired the Tomahawk missile that killed 178 (mostly schoolgirls)…
I posted just moments ago in the Politics forum a CNN video that compares Demented Donnie’s approval rating to GWB’s after he got us involved in two wars (Iraq & Afghanistan) and tRUMP’s approval rating among independent voters was 12 % below GWB’s at a similar point in their terms (although both were underwater).
And Demented Donnie launched a preemptive attack after claiming six months earlier that Iran’s nuclear fuel enrichment program had been obliterated! When pressured for an answer as to why (what was the specific threat) all he said was that he felt very strongly that Iran would pursue an imminent attack on the US—an allegation his own Intel Services say there is no evidence to support.
And President Clinton is correct: when you do something so foolish & dangerous you own ALL the consequences that are the fallout.
And we won’t even get into his laughable lie that Iran fired the Tomahawk missile that killed 178 (mostly schoolgirls)…
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I listened carefully to all of this. One point stands out head and shoulders above everything else. Just how far US politics has been flushed down the toilet since Clinton was President. Of course, we all know the man was flawed. But he was fit to run a nation. He understood consequences..😷
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@whowasthatmaskedman "The Iran problem " - he definitely represented the country. Sociopathic.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego As long as we live in a global society that will trade with anyone, regardless of moral code or ethics, some countries will always be "problems" In this case, both sides are quite problematic.😷
ThirstenHowl · M
one big, big, big, big problem:
this speech never, ever happened
the uploader says as much in the description on the actual video page on YouTube, and right here in the thumbnail for your embed on SW it blares "Altered or synthetic content"
try Googling any quote from this "speech"
this is a fake AI-generated AI slop video
you need to go back to that channel and block it, after reporting that crap as spam
this shit is becoming an epidemic on YouTube
YouTube was never a recommended resource for news, politics or history even before now, but this AI scourge is making it even more of a do-not-consult and do-not-share news resource
even a lot of the music on YouTube now is not even real
this speech never, ever happened
the uploader says as much in the description on the actual video page on YouTube, and right here in the thumbnail for your embed on SW it blares "Altered or synthetic content"
try Googling any quote from this "speech"
this is a fake AI-generated AI slop video
you need to go back to that channel and block it, after reporting that crap as spam
this shit is becoming an epidemic on YouTube
YouTube was never a recommended resource for news, politics or history even before now, but this AI scourge is making it even more of a do-not-consult and do-not-share news resource
even a lot of the music on YouTube now is not even real
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ThirstenHowl Yes. It was clearly an AI speech, using his voice. I spotted that quickly. But it doesnt make him wrong. Just "not him"..😷
ThirstenHowl · M
It is wrong!
If these are thoughts one wants to convey, just write them down here yourself, under your own screen name, and don't attribute them to anyone else.
Then we can all fairly agree or disagree with the words on their own merits
Doing it the way the OP has chosen only creates a distraction from any thoughts the OP wanted to convey.
Aside from the complete lack of authenticity, there's also the whole glaringly negative cumulative environmental footprint of generating pointless AI videos, music, images and text. Creators of such should be publicly caned for just that aspect alone, to reinforce the teaching moment.
This is as shady as the pre-AI scourge of fake quotes in general .... and when anyone would get caught passing one along, they offered the same defense as you ... "well it doesn't make it not true" ... and it doesn't give your thoughts any more credence of validity to stuff them into the mouths of famous people who never said them either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If anything, it only undermines your own credibility from that point forward, with anything you ever share thereafter.
Share your own thoughts in your own words, stop relying on famous people to back up what you believe.
And in this particular instance, what a choice of famous mouth in which to stuff the words, in this "Epstein files" moment. Even if Bill never actually did anything other than just be in proximity to an infamous sexual predator, you've already lost half of your audience there just through basic guilt by association which most people too easily fall back on due to lack of critical thinking skills.
@whowasthatmaskedman
If these are thoughts one wants to convey, just write them down here yourself, under your own screen name, and don't attribute them to anyone else.
Then we can all fairly agree or disagree with the words on their own merits
Doing it the way the OP has chosen only creates a distraction from any thoughts the OP wanted to convey.
Aside from the complete lack of authenticity, there's also the whole glaringly negative cumulative environmental footprint of generating pointless AI videos, music, images and text. Creators of such should be publicly caned for just that aspect alone, to reinforce the teaching moment.
This is as shady as the pre-AI scourge of fake quotes in general .... and when anyone would get caught passing one along, they offered the same defense as you ... "well it doesn't make it not true" ... and it doesn't give your thoughts any more credence of validity to stuff them into the mouths of famous people who never said them either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If anything, it only undermines your own credibility from that point forward, with anything you ever share thereafter.
Share your own thoughts in your own words, stop relying on famous people to back up what you believe.
And in this particular instance, what a choice of famous mouth in which to stuff the words, in this "Epstein files" moment. Even if Bill never actually did anything other than just be in proximity to an infamous sexual predator, you've already lost half of your audience there just through basic guilt by association which most people too easily fall back on due to lack of critical thinking skills.
@whowasthatmaskedman
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ThirstenHowl You may have a point. However. It does appear there was no attempt to deceive. And it is a way of insuring more attention is paid by more people. So I can see why it was done this way. One of my favourite You Tubers is an extremely eloquent Orangutan. Once you develop an ear for the style, its simple enough to spot a fake..😷
swirlie · 31-35, F
Donald Trump may understand it but does his sidekick Pete Hegseth understand what he talked Donald into doing?
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