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Starvation wages

The disparity between Canada and US wages is huge. When I quit my job the company offered nearly double my wages for a US replacement.
Why are Canadians treated like this? We have all the same skills Americans have, but are paid starvation wages.
Seems like something the Canadian Government should fix.
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swirlie · 31-35
You have missed the point behind the American employee they needed to use as your replacement.

None of what you experienced has anything to do with wages, first of all.

What this has to do with is the fact that you work for an American company that has one of it's business operations located in Canada. Before you quit your job, you were a Canadian living in Canada but working for an American-owned company. Let's be clear, that's where you're coming from here.

All American companies have a mandate from Trump to hire only American Nationals, not imported immigrants even inside the borders of the USA. That is America's new direction in it's evolution as a developing Nation, to turn inward and become an isolationist, protectionist country unto ITSELF.

When Trump first came into power as President back in 2016, one of the first things he mandated was a return of corporate America BACK to the United States to secure American jobs at the expense of the workers laid off in whatever country those American companies pulled out from, at Trump's Authoritarian command.

Where this first hit Canada was in Leamington Ontario, about a 30 minute drive from the Windsor/Detroit border crossing on the north shore of Lake Erie.

Heinz who make ketchup, are an American-owned company with it's Head Office in the USA. Heinz had been in business in Ontario Canada for over 80 years making ketchup and mustard and relish using Canadian-grown vegetables and using Canadian employees, most who'd been employed by Heinz for over 40 years as of 2016.

When Heinz pulled out of Canada in response to America's new King thrashing his golden gauntlet against his oval office oak desk, Heinz laid off every Canadian employee, walked away from the factory that was built 80 years ago with Canadian government funds, then set up shop right across the lake on the American side where Heinz then hired Americans to do the same factory jobs Canadians had been doing for the previous 80 years in Canada, but were working on behalf of American-owned Heinz.

Stellantis Automotive who make the American-owned Chrysler who make the Jeep and Ram Truck, had a production factory in Canada which recently closed for alleged retooling, who then laid off all Canadian assembly line workers during the transition, but recently announced that the Jeep and Ram Truck would now be manufactured south of the border, somewhere in the USA.

Stellantis is a Dutch-owned conglomerate who received orders from Grand Master Trump to either transfer those Canadian automotive jobs to the USA, or they wouldn't be able sell Jeeps and trucks in the US market. Stellantis pulled their Chrysler division out of Canada and returned those jobs to the USA on Trump's command and those Canadian employees are still unemployed.

To the heart of your post, the only reason that an American would be solicited to take your place after you quit your job was because the company you worked for would be under the same mandate to use AMERICAN employees, not Canadian employees.

The problem is, Americans are not exactly welcome in Canada right now and no American in his right mind would actually pull up stakes and move to Canada even in good weather, which is why they had to offer your replacement more than double the wages you were making as your replacement.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@swirlie Stellantis own quite a range of formerly-independent car manufacturers, including I think Renault and Citroen, so I wonder if they could save employment in Canada by making other marques. Ther big problem of course is that changing a car-factory's product is difficult, time-consuming and costly.

In the circumstances it is understandable that Canadians would resent Americans coming North to replace them. I would if it happened to me. It is also hard on those Americans who presumably would move only because there is no work for them in their own part of the USA.

It also costs money to build and equip a new factory; and there is no guarantee all would, or could, be built anywhere near the frontier. The companies themselves may also now have to pay tariffs on materials they now have to import - though of course, probably passing the tax onto their customers..

There is nothing new in US companies buying foreign companies in order to close them either to remove competition or to exploit the intellectual-property but on US land; but this seems a government-ordered extension to that.

In the end the USA as a nation might "win", but it risks awful costs to many businesses and people; both Americans in the USA, and foreigners in their own countries.
swirlie · 31-35
@ArishMell
Well, the US definitely won't win in this battle because Canadians have already stopped buying almost everything that's Made in the USA from soup to nuts to cars.

Even the sale of American-made booze has been prohibited recently across Canada which resulted in several Kentucky distilleries going bankrupt within 1 month after Trump began his protectionist, isolationist 'America First' agenda.

Brazil is now doing business exclusively with China while totally bypassing the USA entirely, which means Brazil won't be paying tariffs to Trump at all.

Canada already gets a lot of non-American-made cars into the Canadian marketplace, such as Mercedes imported from Germany, Volvo imported from Sweden, Kia, Hyundai sub-compacts plus all their luxury brands in gas, hybrid and full EV.

I think if anything will happen to protect auto jobs in Canada, we'll see some of those imported car brands being made right in Canada, instead of importing them like we're currently doing, the exception being Toyota and Honda which already make cars for the Canadian market right in Canada (Toronto area).
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@swirlie American imports from Brazil were subject to tariffs, but those are not paid by Brazil. They are paid by Americans within America, but Brazil suffers from the lost sales.

I think Brazil and China are already in a trading treaty with three other countries, but the US tariff regimes can only strengthen such treaties.

Volvo was bought by China, unfortunately, some years ago.

I am not sure how banning US alcohol, or any other produce, in Canada could help either nation, though I can understand why it was done.
swirlie · 31-35
@ArishMell

American imports from Brazil were subject to tariffs, but those are not paid by Brazil. They are paid by Americans within America, but Brazil suffers from the lost sales.

Correct, those tariffs are paid by Americans but Brazil has to pay the total tariff cost at the border crossing when goods are imported to the USA. Brazil then raises the cost of those exported items to the US consumer to recover Brazil's pre-paid tariff which Brazil has to pay up front.

I think Brazil and China are already in a trading treaty with three other countries, but the US tariff regimes can only strengthen such treaties.

Again correct, but now Brazil doesn't have to raise prices to sell their goods to the US consumer if Brazil exports to China at a lower price and devoid of pre-paid tariff costs.

Volvo was bought by China, unfortunately, some years ago.

Correct, Volvo is now owned by Greeley in China but Volvos are still manufactured in Sweden for export to Canada. Volvo is also made in South Carolina USA for the US market only.

I am not sure how banning US alcohol, or any other produce, in Canada could help either nation, though I can understand why it was done.

Canada has more distilleries than are found in the US, yet Canadians were happier buying imported American booze which is cheap and lower in quality than what's made in Canada, so effectively the US was dumping their cheap booze in Canada and Canadians were sopping it up like it was cheap American beer.

The only reason the American booze became prohibited from sale in Canada was to boost the Canadian liquor industry, in other words to keep the booze money in Canada, not the USA.
JackDaniels · 46-50, M
@swirlie you can still like our nuts. 😂
swirlie · 31-35
@JackDaniels
Oh, but I've always liked American nuts anyway!
JackDaniels · 46-50, M
@swirlie I have two. 🤣