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Canada and our Eleventh Province

We would like to invite various states such as Vermont, Maine, and Massachusetts in the east or Washington, Oregon, and California in the west to join Canada and become our 11th+ province.

To our American cousins, sorry to have to say this, but the benefits of joining Canada include:
-Life expectancy will go up from a world ranking of 48th (USA) to 20th (Canada).
-Education will get better from 31st (USA) to 19th (Canada).
-Math scores will improve from 34th (USA) to 9th (Canada).
-Robberies will go down from 98 per 100,000 population to 62.
-Traffic accident deaths will drop from 12.7 per 100,000 to 5.3.
-You will spend half as much on health care yet get better outcomes.
-Poverty in Canada is 1/3 the rate in the USA.
-Although Canada has fewer millionaires, we more fairly distribute wealth (better income equality).
-The minimum wage in Canada is double that in USA.
- We don’t have millions of people running an around with hand guns.

and most important you will be happier (Canada ranked 15th, USA 23rd in happiness).

(We couldn't find a politeness index, but thank you for reading)
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-You will spend half as much on health care yet get better outcomes.

i'm not so sure about better outcomes when most canadians don't even have a family doctor or even hospitals to go to in rural parts...

thus soon to affect this stat.....

-Life expectancy will go up from a world ranking of 48th (USA) to 20th (Canada).
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@beermeplease So we've been told down here. We've also heard the stories of Canadians coming here to get the care they couldn't get under their system.
@Gibbon absolutely true..my coworker needed cataracts. was waiting weeks and weeks for word of when he'd get surgery. still nothing. he only got in earlier because his son works at a hospital. he basically begged one of the doctors to help his dad jump the cue, which he did. my other coworker waited months. about the only good thing are emergency procedures. my mom broke her hip a few years ago. got one right away and paid nothing. in 2022 (at this time) she went in the hospital and stayed there for 2 months before she finally died in march. she needed amputations etc...long story but it had to do with her smoking...i'm sure she cost the medical system thousands in those 2 months but nothing was billed to her estate
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@beermeplease It's one to pay nothing out of pocket. It's totally another to get no timely care.
@Gibbon tbh...i'm scared to get sick...
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@beermeplease Totally understand. I have my fears also but our reasons are for certain completely different.
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@beermeplease do you not have a family doctor?
@Jenny1234 not any more. hadn't been to mine in 2 years, didn't realize that if you don't go to them in that period you lose them. friends of mine (a married couple) didn't have one for years until one day a doctor (newish to canada from the uk) was willing to take them in but actually had to go through an "interview" process to be his patient
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@beermeplease That's nutz.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@beermeplease You do have to wait for elective surgeries here but that is an acceptable price to pay for free health care. Note is you have real problems such as my wife for breast cancer, there is absolutely no wait. Likewise for heart surgery etc...
@JimboSaturn that is correct...i hope your wife got the best of care
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@beermeplease She got excellent care for the most part.
@JimboSaturn good to hear unfortunately for my father back in 2009 he got the shaft. had colonoscopies done, then needed hemorrhoids surgery. got that done and had some residual bleading which is normal but not weeks later. went back to his doctor and he "checked" things out. my dad screamed like a stuck pig and he was ordered into er....he died a few months later and it was horrible...long story short, and this is what my family doctor told me is that the hospital totally fucked up his colonoscopy results....his death was totally preventable. he had rectal cancer that had spread everywhere
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@beermeplease I’m so so sorry
@Jenny1234 thank you...in fact sunday will be another bad anniversary. jan 12 2022. was when we brought mom to the hospital. she never came home after that and she stayed there until she finally passed away in palliative care march 7....this is why you sometimes see me be preachy with other users who smoke, especially the young ones...had you been a smoker and visited my mom with me i guarantee you would have quit
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beermeplease My mum passed a year ago. Problems related to lungs and forty years of smoking. I used to smoke. I quit
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@beermeplease my dad too passed from cancer. He started smoking at 18
@Burnley123 same with my mom and her lungs but also clogged blood vessels restricted blood flow to her legs. she had to have her foot amputated. that didn't work so the only other option was cutting off her entire leg. she would not have survived that so thats why we had to put her in palliative care. she literally was rotting. the day before she died i visited her one last time. she was obviously knocked out. but when i left i ran into a man my parents age who knew her. i told him what's going on with mom....he went white as a ghost. he told me his doctor told him he would have to one day amputate his leg if he didnt stop smoking. he quit on the spot. he was "wee eddy from scotland" point is....people don't realize other complications one can get from smoking. it can be gruesome...i quit in 2008. smoked for 24 years.... glad you quit and sorry about your mom 🫂
@Jenny1234 i started at 14...so glad i quit in 2008
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@beermeplease I’m glad you quit. How much were you smoking as a teenager?
@Jenny1234 i'm gonna say 1/2 a pack a day, but by the time i was 19 i was up to a pack a day more on weekends right up until i was about 37. my dad had a big part in making me quit by constantly telling me "beerme, one day it's gonna haunt you" one day after work i said fuck it....i'm done. never smoked again. i couldn't believe i quit on my first attempt...and that was cold turkey. considering i used to smoke when i shaved thats a pretty big feat
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@beermeplease smoking when you shave?
@Jenny1234 yep...and don't laugh at this one...on weekends before we went clubbing i'd shower with a beer and a smoke....yes it can be done
@beermeplease I used to smoke in the bath tub. Ridiculous, yes? Yes.