This is my hometown 😍 Where is yours ?

@ServantOfTheGoddess
I believe all languages are beautiful and should be appreciated but I agree English isn’t a very rich or fascinating language.

“ As for me I don't really have a "home town"

my parents and I were born in it
But my family isn’t actually from this town but it is my hometown.

“I've lived in 6 different cities long enough to feel at home in them.”

Is it because of the nature of your job/your parents job?

@Moon3624 yes, first my parents, then me :) Academics often live a wandering life.

@ServantOfTheGoddess
What kind of academic are you?
And which city feels most like home to you and why?
I love traveling and I particularly enjoyed Spain
but I would not like to move constantly or
Settle down in different places
Because I personally like the sense of community and the sense of feeling like I belong plus fitting in is tiring.
I have been studying in the uk for a year now as an international student and it’s a nice experience
But I personally would not want to live here.


You know on a very random side note
It’s weird how Christian Zionists have been calling me Anti semite right and left on here
They’r literally whipping me with it non stop for simply speaking the truth
But the only Jew I know which is you have not
On different sites it’s different patterns though.

@Moon3624 I teach in the humanities. I don't get into specifics on here cause anonymity.

Spain is beautiful and the Spanish language is so lovely!

When I lived in the rocky, lakey landscape of the "Canadian Shield" when I was younger it made a deep impression, and when I enter that kind of landscape now I feel at home.

I hope the UK is mostly treating you well and that you are not running into racism there.

As for the appalling overload of death and destruction going on in the MIddle East, I have not been paying attention to your statements on that or, mostly, anybody else's. Everyone I know, Jewish, Muslim, or Christian, who has any connection with those horrors, is overwrought, flooded with emotion, and often saying things they should not have said. We are all human beings. There is no reason to hate each other.

On a random side note nobody is "[b]literally[/b] whipping" you unless you have a BDSM thing going on there in the UK 😛 I am sad that people are figuratively whipping you though!

@ServantOfTheGoddess
“ cause anonymity”
Guess you are a big shot admit it 😂

“ I hope the UK is mostly treating you well and that you are not running into racism there.”

I have not faced any kind of racism in here. However In my humble and very personal opinion
Uk is just not the best place to live in at the moment there are lots of riots and upset people. It’s the type of place that is nice for tourism but not to live in
And raise a family at the moment. The crime levels are not that great either . I have been robbed in one year more than 20 years back home. Also
I don’t mean to be rude but the British in general are polite and respectful but not warm and chatty people.
I’m actually going back to Saudi in a few days to visit my family over winter break and I can’t wait.


Ohh that’s nice . yeah Canada is geologically unique. It is also home to the oldest bed rock in the world which is about 4.3 billion years old.
However it does not reflect the age of the earth because rocks are constantly destroyed and created in the rock cycle
So the oldest earth bed rock was actually destroyed so dating rocks was not the only thing that helped us know the age of the earth but also meteorites among other things made us know that the age of the earth is 4.5+ billion years.

“ As for the appalling overload of death and destruction going on in the MIddle East”
My stance on Israel for years never changed. I view it as a settler colonial project that was formed at the expense of the Palestinians. It was not an empty barren land before they came on their boats. People had a culture and had villages and towns and did trade and had an identity and so on until all of that was destroyed forever.
Israel’s occupation and apartheid is the root cause of all the problems in that land.
If I was Jewish I would be ashamed and angry for Judaism to be confused with Zionism. I don’t view the IDF to be any different than Isis or the enforcers of South African apartheid .
And any look at the criminal record of idf would prove that very easily.

If this makes me antisemite I genuinely dont care. But
last time I checked I am a Semite and so are the Palestinians. There are many semetic groups /people
So it’s very illogical to call Semite people anti semetic .
And on a very ironic note, I’m apparently genetically closer to Samaritans than I am to Palestinians
And to Yemenite Jews (They’r actually Arabs who converted to Judaism long time ago but most ppl do not know that )
Than I am to Syrians .

@Moon3624 I don't share your view of Israel, but I would certainly not call your ideas antisemitic, since many Jews hold similar views, and since you are appropriately distinguishing between Judaism and Zionism; they overlap, but are not the same thing.

However, the word "antisemitism" was invented as a scientific-sounding way to say "anti-Jewish" so it's not actually relevant that non-Jewish Arabs are also "Semites".

I am mistrustful of the science of these DNA tests, and they misspelled "Samaritan", but it is cool to see yourself as being related to people all across the region like that.

As for the UK I am sad to hear your experiences of riots and emotional coolness and especially being robbed. :(

What are you studying? Is it geology or do you just happen to know all that stuff about rocks and the age of the earth as a side interest? :)

@ServantOfTheGoddess

“ I don't share your view of Israel”
I don’t think it’s a matter of views but a matter of personal biases.
they do not even have a right to the land in the least bit 😂
it’s a setter colony with changing boarders every some years with illegal settlers even in the remnants of Palestinian lands
and built on mass ethnic cleansing .
also I didn’t whip out anything from my imagination but from books , history, human right organization reports and so on despite Israel’s billions of dollars propaganda in rewriting history and pushing things under the rug.


“I am mistrustful of the science of these DNA test”

To be honest so am i. It’s a cash milking business that’s been trending lately . But I did the ancestry test
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/
Which is more reliable than true ancestry
and I got 98-99%+ Middle Eastern
which is boring to say the least

@Moon3624 I really have no desire to argue with you about Israel. You should go visit some time though.
That's funny about the rocks 🪨

@ServantOfTheGoddess
Thank you
When it’s free I’ll visit don’t you worry.

@ServantOfTheGoddess


Why don’t u say that ur a Zionist and make things easier for me lol
I prefer a lion to a Fox

@Moon3624 Arab women can vote for the national government there unlike where you live. So you can visit any time.

@ServantOfTheGoddess

“ Arab women can vote for the national government there unlike where you live. So you can visit any time.”

Here comes the bigotry. Masks drop very fast.
Anyways ,
Both men and women can’t vote in my country except in very rare occasions
Because the ruling system here is very different so your logic doesn’t apply
and actually women do participle and vote in Saudi.
Also you went ahead and lumped all Arab women in one sentence despite the fact every Arab country is different
Kuwaiti women and many other also vote and participate in their parliaments and governments.
And Jews can visit except for the colonial settlers called Israelis so ur welcome to visit any time.
And it is true some Palestinians who were lucky enough to not be kicked out during the nakba
got the Israeli nationality
However the vast majority of them identify with the Palestinians and actually have faced and still face many obstacles.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel


And i don’t know how they must have felt when they saw a rally where Israelis shouted death to Arabs few years ago WITH Israeli police protection
You should look it up it’s in YouTube.




And the laws of this colonial state for their citizens
Does not change the fact They’r a settler colony and an occupation
And the other long list of crimes.

If I would criticize my country for anything is the fact it doesn’t launch an army towards Israel.

@Moon3624 When you accuse me of taking off my mask and revealing bigotry, I think you are jumping to a negative conclusion that is not warranted by anything I said. I also know that you are reaching a false conclusion, because I don't in fact have any prejudices against Arabs, Muslims, Saudis, or Palestinians. So my emotional response at this point is one of discouragement.

I am not sure why you have persisted in arguing about Israel when I told you I didn't want to. Is it because you're hoping I will agree that you are right?

That isn't going to happen, but you also might want to know that I have always agreed with many parts of what you have said.

Individual Israelis as well as successive governments of Israel have a lot of blood on their hands. Personally I would say that the project of reviving Jewish sovereignty in the ancient homeland at a time when Jews were a small minority, with little consideration for the majority of people living there at the time, was indeed deeply flawed and it certainly ended up leading to catastrophe for the many Palestinians who left their homes in 1948. I would also affirm that the long occupation of the territories taken by Israel in 1967 has been a human disaster for Palestinians and a moral disaster for Israelis.

But your total delegitimization of Israel both hurts my feelings and contradicts what I know, because I have friends and family there and have spent time there, and I know the history and the current situation to be much more multifaceted than how you are portraying it.

If you want to argue, I will probably continue to point out the ironies in your position. I'd much rather hear more about your hometown and your geological studies, though.

@ServantOfTheGoddess

One Zionist even suggested for Bahrain and east Arabia to be their Jewish state 😂

My city which you liked knowing about
Is in east of Saudi Arabia.
If the mass migration of Jews came to it instead of Palestine and later
ethnically cleansed my city and pushed us to a tiny strip in our own land killing our identity and calling us terrorists for fighting for our liberation and calling the land theirs
What propaganda would you have wiped up to protect this settler colony ?

Just because you are a Jew does not mean you should defend a settler colony
That’s why there are honorable Jews who defend the Palestinian cause and admit the truth.

@Moon3624 I live in a settler colony, generally recognized as one of the best places in the world to live in. 🇨🇦

Your country, centuries ago, launched one of the biggest colonial projects ever, also known as the Arab Conquests in the early days of Islam. If it wasn't for that colonial project, there wouldn't be any Arabic-speaking Muslims in Palestine in the first place.

History and reality are multifaceted.

@ServantOfTheGoddess
And by the way
Despite the fact Abraham is not from palestine therefore you have no indigenous claim over it
There is actually no more indigenous ppl than Ishmaeli Arabs.
Cuz Ishmael’s mother was Egyptian and father was an Iraqi he was born in the Levant
and he married a woman from the Arabian Peninsula
Meaning his decedents
Literally have a a valid claim over
Iraq, Levant , Egypt , and the Arabian Peninsula
So why have a problem with the Arabs conquering the Middle East in the early days of Islam (with no betrayal ,forced conversions or ethnic cleansing of the indigenous )
Cuz these Arabian tribes including Omar’s were tribes that literally descended from Ishmael particularly from that Arabian wife .
If we go with your logic of course not mine.
Even your logic is flawed

@Moon3624 If you're going to go by religion, then God promised that particular bit of land to the descendants of Yaaqub.
If you were to go by historical evidence, the consensus is that the Israelites were in fact indigenous to that land.

@ServantOfTheGoddess I’m not going by religion at all. You are.
Im proving your flawed logic

@Moon3624 Arabs being descended from Ishmael is pure religion, not historians' history.

@ServantOfTheGoddess
No they are not indigenous
Abraham comes from modems day Iraq
How is his decedents Indigenous?
Palestinians have high Canaanite dna and so on.
Also coming thousands of years later from around the globe claiming this land and ethnically cleansing the ppl on it belonged does not work

@Moon3624 You're mixing up religion (Abraham) and archeology/history (indigenous Israelites) again.
There's no such thing as "Canaanite" DNA.
There were always Jews in the land, as you well know -- they didn't suddenly disappear for "thousands of years".