parking place for trump case posts

@lumberjackslam As incredible as it may seem, falsifying business records is against the law. Strange, I know.

@windinhishair "falsifying "....so is cutting the tag off mattresses. 🗑️look it's just Trump today but everyone else tomorrow, who makes an error

@lumberjackslam An adult committing murder and a child stealing a candy bar have both committed a crime, but they are not the same.

Face it, Trump is a criminal and he should finally be held accountable.

@windinhishair even murderers don't face such stiff penalties

@lumberjackslam Murderers go to prison for life or are executed. Should Trump trade his financial penalty for one of those to save money?

@windinhishair remember OJ? He didn't have to pay a fraction of that amount.

@lumberjackslam I like your idea of having Trump trade his fines for a murder sentence. And Florida, where he resides, has the death penalty.

@windinhishair OK so now we see your motivation is just to commit murder. glad we cleared that up.

@lumberjackslam You made the suggestion. I never would have suggested it. But you think it is appropriate.

If Trump didn't want to be convicted of a crime, he shouldn't have committed one. Pretty simple, isn't it?

@windinhishair you mean having the loan applications filled out wrong? 😅meanwhile Tish is ignoring violent criminals in her jurisdiction.

@lumberjackslam Committing fraud is a crime, no matter how much you love it.

Which violent criminals are getting ignored? Please identify them by name.

@windinhishair oh please I can't interact with someone telling me what I think constantly.

@lumberjackslam You don't appear to recognize that fraud is a crime, and a serious one. Trump is just being held accountable for this crime. Nothing more or less. Don't make excuses for criminal behavior.

@windinhishair well I'm not the only one. Kevin O' Leary called the verdict an attack on America.

@lumberjackslam Not being the only apologist for criminal behavior is not something to be proud of.

@lumberjackslam I wouldn't have thrived in the Third Reich like you would have; that's true. I'm also not going to glorify criminal behavior. You can if you wish.

@windinhishair So you're clamoring for murder based on some bank forms and calling me a Nazi. You really think you're balanced and sane?

@lumberjackslam You brought up the Third Reich and the comparison of a murderer's penalty being better than Trump's, not me. Perhaps you should quit while you are behind.

@windinhishair I brought up the third Reich therefore I'm a Nazi? is that what you call logic?

@lumberjackslam I never called you a Nazi. Go back and read what I posted. Perhaps you have a guilty conscience, but that's on you, not me.

I'll grant you that logic is not your strong suit.

@lumberjackslam [quote] He didn't have to pay a fraction of that amount.[/quote]
The statute Trump violated is New York Executive Law EXC § 63(12). The purpose is to take away the incentive for cheating by forcing disgorgement of profits made from cheating. If a scam artist makes $350 mil from cheating and you only fine him $50 mil, that makes cheating VERY profitable - you can't deny it.

@ElwoodBlues firstly, that law was misapplied. it is meant for consumer protection. the statute of limitations has already passed although the judge didn't care the appeals court if it is actually effective will come to that conclusion.
Exaggerating in order to make a profit is called capitalism. Trump is a businessman and a pretty much a good salesman .

@lumberjackslam Wrong.
Consumer protection?? Show me where in the text of the law it mentions consumer protection. I'll wait.

[quote]the statute of limitations has already passed[/quote] DEAD WRONG!
The disgorgements only cover the last seven years from when the case was filed. All the other cheating Trump did prior to that he got away with.

[quote]Exaggerating in order to make a profit is called capitalism.[/quote] Lying in order to make a profit is called fraud.

Among the documents Trump falsified were SFCs (Statements of Financial Condition). He did that partly by feeding false info to and concealing liabilities from his accounting firm, Mazars. That's why Mazars dumped Trump back in Feb 2022. Lenders use SFCs to judge the overall financial condition of loan applicants. And loan officers testified at trial that Trump would not have gotten the low interest loans he got if they had known the truth.
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But wait! There's more!![/b]

From the Judge's opinion:
[quote]Valuing occupied residences as if vacant, valuing restricted land as if unrestricted, valuing an apartment as if it were triple its actual size, valuing property many times the amount of concealed appraisals, valuing planned buildings as if completed and ready to rent, valuing golf courses with brand premium while claiming not to, and valuing restricted funds as cash, are not subjective differences of opinion, they are misstatements at best and fraud at worst,[/quote]

@lumberjackslam Trump is an excellent salesman--to his Cult, who he continues to fleece repeatedly, while they cheer his fleecing. A good businessman doesn't declare bankruptcy multiple times as Trump has, sticking others with his losses.

There is a difference between exaggerating and commmitting fraud, as Trump has. That fraud includes decreasing his tax burden by reporting false valuations.

Do you practice capitalism that includes lying on your taxes through "exaggeration"?