Christians believing they have proof

@Renkon I disagree. Beliefs are divisible in this way:
Fully correct (sole truth, knowledge)
Partly correct (mere knowledge of)
Fully incorrect (mere knowledge of)

@CleverGirlI mean isn't that the literal meaning of belief? If something is proven to be true…don’t we say we KNOW that is true? When we are unsure...but choose to place our faith anyway…we say we BELIEVE…right? Or are you implying on something deeper?

@Renkon Upon having the needed proof a belief doesn't stop being but one of many possible beliefs. It becomes the (fully) correct belief.

@CleverGirl hmm🤔... A unique take of belief. Interesting.

@Renkon It's more rational and scientific. We shouldn't abandon a time honoured practice of properly classifying things.

@CleverGirl I like the way you think. Allow me to stretch it a little further.

Technically, no two entities in this universe are the same. No two "ones" are identical. Even electrons, at different positions and moments, are distinct particulars. So 1+1 does not actually equal 2 in any absolute sense — it is a calculation of convenience.

So categories are useful fictions that track real structure .....It's approximate tool...Not perfectly real. 😉

@Renkon Clear breaks exist in nature. Animate and inanimate for instance. This means that the idea of seamless inter-relatedness of events is flawed. Classifications do exist. That no two events are identical will not overrule this. I'm an expert in possibility doling as well as temporal mechanics.

@Renkon In Quantum
Mechanics bi position is possible

For example in an ammonium molecule, the nitrogen atom sits 50% of its time above the three hydrogen atoms. And 50% below. Yet never passes through the middle!

@peterlee An exchange has likely ocurred.

@CleverGirl Apparently not. In a divise called a tunnel diode, there is a forbidden zone where electrons cannot pass. Yet electrons are found the other side of the barrier.