I wonder why human beings are so important in the conflict between the fallen angels (demons) and Jehovah

Assume that the angels existed long before humans existed, let's say millions of years, then at some point some angels (especially satan) started questioning God, but I assume that it only burst into a full blown conflict once Satan compelled humans to sin. Why did it take so long for them to rebel and why are humans such a crucial aspect in the situation when we are so small and powerless in comparison to them?

I don't know. Maybe there were conflicts and issues that existed and ended before we were created. Then perhaps, even after this conflict is ended, new ones will emerge eventually, even if a very long time goes between them. Perhaps they won't be as bad, but who knows. I find it an interesting thought because us christians often think that the current conflict is the final one and that when it ends everything will be permanently conflict free, that might be the case too, but again, who knows. ☺

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Charity · 61-69

In the garden of Eden Satan actually speaking words of truth manipulated Eve because of her desires to be as God herself, into eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge, Satan was already in his fallen state.

Jesus said he beheld Satan is lightning fall from heaven.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2010%3A18&version=KJV

Paul says the ruler of this world has been judged, speaking of Satan. That is telling us that Satan is the only one of all of the Angels that were cast down from heaven to Earth. He is the only one that has been judged, judgment is pending on all others.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%2016%3A11

The Old Testament refers to the Lord as the Lord of hosts, host meaning an army, multitudes of angels. And he is mighty in battle, which means he has fought a battle or battles https://biblehub.com/psalms/24-8.htm

https://biblehub.com/exodus/15-3.htm

Ministers teach that Satan is jealous because God loves us. That Satan wants to destroy anything that God loves, and those who try to serve God who are his targets. And when you look at life man himself man has a tendency to be jealous of other humans for various reasons, some to the point that they will do anything to discredit or destroy.

Suppose Satan's unquestionable anger and hatred of man is because he knows who our spirits truly are. Anger because we're given away to redemption and he wasn't, but he has been condemned carrying out of sentencing. Suppose the spirits within us are actually the spirits of those angels that were cast out of heaven down the Earth with Satan. Why haven't those angels, the 1/3 that were cast out of heaven with Satan been judged, the Bible does not speak of them. And 1/3 of the innumerable host of angels that's a lot that man cannot put a number to.

Humans are already have the nature to sin by being disobedient to God, Satan just uses it, some call it tempting.

Used to be and the older Bibles that once this is over, in the new heaven and new earth, there will be no more redemption, if anyone even thinks wrong they will be immediately destroyed. They have removed and are changed a lot of scriptures in these free translations.