Dear Christian evangelicals who are pro Zionist Israel🇮🇱 we all know it is because of the rapture and your prophecies 😂 not about rights and humanit

@ObscuredAxioms
Islam is a [b]religion[/b] not a [b]race[/b].

Not all Arabs are Muslims and most importantly not all Muslims are Arabs
(In fact some of the oldest Christian families today are Arab)




[b]Most[/b] of the Muslim population today are literally not Arabs. Are you that ignorant ?😂

There are Indonesians , Malaysians , Persians , Maldives , Filipinos, Nigerians, white Spanish, white Canadians , white Americans , Indians, Tatar etc who are Muslims
I even have a Japanese friend online who’s Muslim .
So please
Don’t confuse Judaism which is an ethnic religion to Islam which is a religion to all people and anyone can convert to it just like Christianity.

The Quran 21: 107
{
We have sent you ˹O Prophet˺ only as a mercy for the whole world.}

And prophet Mohammed said
“ All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action. ”

And you seem to think that Ishmael is an Arab. He wasnt. His mother was an Egyptian woman and his father was Abraham who was originally from Mesopotamia (aka Iraq ) .
Why ishamel was because because he had Egyptian blood in him? Egypt literally has a rich history and civilization.

Ishmael only married from the Arabs because the Arabs accepted him when his own people didn’t (so the Arabs existed before Ishamel )

So while many Arabian tribes descend from Ishmael plenty of other Arabian tribes literally do not.

So the arabs who decedent from Ishmael such as prophet Mohammed and me for instance have Egyptian , Arab, and Mesopotamia in us .

And it seems to me like Ishmael vs Isaac
And hagar vs sarah
is an issue that exists within Jews and Christian beliefs not the Muslim beliefs.
Because Muslims do not different between the two. We love and respect both of Ishmael and Jacob .

Abraham in the Quran said ;
14: 39

{
Praise be to God, who has granted me Ishmael and Isaac in my old age: my Lord hears all requests!}

2: 285

{
The Messenger believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, as do the faithful. They all believe in God, His angels, His scriptures, and His messengers. ‘We make no distinction between any of His messengers,’ they say, ‘We hear and obey. Grant us Your forgiveness, our Lord. To You we all return!’-}

In Islam both Ishmael and Isaac were messengers and we differentiate between neither of them. Ishmael in fact called the Arabs to worship the one abrahamic God.


We also love both Sarah and Hagar
This is why Sarah is a very common girl name among Muslims especially in the Middle East. But you’ll never hear a Jew or a Christian naming their daughter hagar. I come from Saudi Arabia the name Sarah is so common each household has a girl named Sarah in fact both of my grandmothers are named Sarah.

So are we really the ones intolerance and racist or YoU are!?

But why are you bringing Muslims into this?
There are literally Palestinian Christians.
There are also many many Jews who are anti Zionists.


This is an issue of a genocide , ethnic , cleansing ,apartheid and settler colonization documented by Harvard and endless human right organizations throughout the decades

Are you gonna ignore the nakba of the Palestinians? And driving the Palestinians out of their lands so a Jewish settler from europe can take his home?

You are delusional

@ObscuredAxioms
Ironically when you quoted the verse you typed 16:12
These are called by europeans “Arabic numerals “ because
They reached the west through the Arabs.
Also the only reason you are using similar worlds is thanks to algorithms
Which was discovered by a Muslim


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/29/muslim.inventions/index.html

There is more but an ignorant person cannot read a lot

@Moon3624 You must be upset. I don't think you read my comment correctly. Nowhere did I assume all Arabs are Muslim or vice versa, obviously since there are Arab Christians.

Ishmael is the forefather or progenitor of the Arabs. This is common thinking. Check it out. I'm fully aware Abraham (Jew) and Hagar (Egyptian), you are correct.

The origin of Islam is in the 6th century AD; way late in the game. I completely disagree with the bias thinking of Muhammad that Adam, Abraham, Moses, and Noah were all Muslims. You may be sincere in your faith but Muhammad deliberately lied. The quote Surah 14:39 needs to be checked in light of (Gen.16); over a 2-4 thousand year gap.

I don't disagree that Hagar thanked God for Ishmael. Hagar wasn't a bad person. She was subjected to Abraham because of Sarah being impatient, being barren, so she gave Hagar to her husband and then kicked her out, sadly.

There should be a differentiation between Ishmael and Issac because Issac is the seed of promise, not Ishmael. This is significant. The devil tried to eradicate the messianic line through the Old Testament to thwart the Messiah's coming. Since God's not finished with the Jews, they are STILL trying to eradicate them, even now. This isn't an issue of loving Isaac or Ishmael, but basically what is.

Muhammad never gave any new revelation. He regurgitated from the Old and New Testaments and even took from the Gnostic Gospels, then called it inspired from God...?

Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. Christ fulfilled many prophecies. After His death (not Judas as some Muslim commentators claim) on the cross and resurrection from the dead, we are no longer under the letter of the Law but the Law of Christ: grace.

Lol, I'm not racist. We all of the same color, but a different shade of that one color: brown :)
Check out all the shades of brown is every man, woman, and child. I love you, regardless of what you think of me. I love you. God loves you.

@ObscuredAxioms
“Ishmael is the forefather or progenitor of the Arabs.”

No Ishmael isn’t the forefather of Arabs😂 He married from the Arabs. The arabs existed before Ishmael was even born .
He didn’t create them you ignorant piece of shit.

What you mean is prophet Mohammed is the decedent of Ishmael. And you are correct
So what?
Why is what Mohammed preached wrong just because he decedents from Ishmael ?
What you are doing is using your subjective beliefs to prove my faith wrong
which doesn’t work . it’s like someone using the Torah or their subjective interpretation of the Torah to falsify the vedas (the Hindus holy book) lmao. This is not how religious debates work. You cannot use your subjective religious scripture to debunk another religion that’s not how it works . Your religious scripture is not a source of facts for all humans😂

In my religion God loves both Ishmael and Isaac. It’s your beliefs or at least interpretation of it that hates one and loves the other. It’s kinda your problem not mine.


Ironically, Muslims believe that Jesus is the messiah they also believe he was born miraculously without a father
They also believe in all of his miracles . In fact Islam is the only non Christian faith that makes it an article of faith
To love Jesus that’s why Muslims can’t hate or curse etc Jesus
The only difference between Christians and Muslims is the fact you view him as God while we view him as a mighty and beloved prophet who taught people to worship the one and only God
We don’t view him as God or son of
God because in our religion God is one and only who doesn’t beget and isn’t begotten.
We also don’t believe he preached that he’s God but that his message was distorted .

Meanwhile Jews curse Jesus and call him the son of a bastard and the fake messiah
And you lovvvve them 😂
You are hypocrite aren’t you?
At least hate both Jews and Muslims equally
But hating the ones who at least love Jesus and loving the ones who hate Jesus and call him a liar and a bastard is illogical and hypocritical.


“
Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. Christ fulfilled many prophecies.”

You claim that but the Jews call you a liar. They say the New Testament goes against their laws and even theology And it’s true the New Testament changes a lot of the laws in the Old Testament and the entire theology is changed by Christians😂


Islam also has prophecies fulfilled so do many religions
Doesn’t prove a thing .




“
Muhammad never gave any new revelation. He regurgitated from the Old and New Testaments and even took from the Gnostic Gospels, then called it inspired from God...?”

He did give plenty of new revelation and even corrects your information
But you never read the Quran how would you know ?
In fact if I asked you what are the five pillars of Islam or how many chapters the Quran consists of you wouldn’t know.

And you are talking as if the gospel which Jesus preached was written by Jesus during his time
It wasn’t
The gospels weren’t written down by Jesus or under his supervision everything came after he was gone and at least 300 years after he was gone the first full bible was written which is nothing like the one today
You also don’t have the gospel in its original manuscript aka original language it was revealed in

Your initial comment was not about religion
But racism
You hate the fact Abraham had a child with Hagar and hate Ishmael's lineage
That was literally your first comment
Go re read your evil words .
That is no different than approving of ethnic cleansing you cold hearted ass hole
I’m sure Jesus is so proud of you

And no you don’t love me
I love prophet Mohammed
You hate him
That means you hate me


And the seed thing is your subjective racist belief not ours 😂
We believe when the children of Israel (Israel meaning Jacob not the country 🇮🇱 💩which Jacob would condemn if he was alive) were righteous god kept atoning prophets from among them(Jacob ,Joseph , Isaac etc )
But with time the Majority of the children of Israel became deviant to the point they even Rejected the messiah (Jesus )
Therefore
God made the last prophet
A Non Israeli but still a decedent of Abraham aka Mohammed
This is our belief
The Muslims love all of the prophets equally
We do not differentiate between them
We love Noah Abraham Isaac ishamel mohammed Jesus Moses etc all
And we believe they preached the same thing
To worship the one true God

@ObscuredAxioms
The Palestinians didn’t go to a majority Jewish settlement in Europe or anywhere in the world and tried to eradicate them
European Christians did
Then those victims of the holocaust went to Palestine which already had people living in it and started their Zionism project which is based on mass immigration that coincides with ethnically cleansing the Palestinians.
It is mother more than an Occupation and apartheid
I’m sorry if you are unaware of history
And I’m sorry if God removed humanity and mercy from your heart and made you a hypocrite machine

@Moon3624 I'm going to lay this to you straight because I have to go to bed....got to catch somes ZZzzz's

In order to get to heaven and have eternal life, you already know the Messiah Himself said, "You must be born again."
This is a spiritual rebirth, not physical; referring to the "type" of birth, not birth itself.

You may not believe this, but you are dead spiritually like everyone else who rejects JESUS as Savior. Hate comes easy and so does sin. Sin separates from God. God has said, "the soul that sins, it shall die."
All have sinned and have fallen short, right? Nobody passes the test.

We check ourselves by the 10 Commandments, which again, we all fail. So, now you have to atone ,somehow, for every sin you have committed (wages), which you can't. You're hopeless and need a way out. How can you be reconciled to God? Confess allah is one and Muhammad is his prophet? No. That's crazy. You still have to deal with your sin. Muhammad missed this most vital element: substitutionary atonement. Only JESUS can pay for your sins, that you may be washed clean and become His child.

You have to know your are a wretched sinner and need someone to bail you out of a prison called hell that you're headed for. Exactly how God is just and merciful simultaneously is He stepped into eternity, took on flesh, lived a sinless life, died on the cross, was resurrected on the third day, and ascended to heaven. Sound familiar?

All you have to do is repent and turn to Christ, put your faith and trust only in Him and you have God's promise of eternal life. I know you must hate me and this may sizzle your heart against me but I say again, I love you and want you saved. I want you in heaven; you, your household, loved ones.

Goodnight.