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ISO: Christians willing to talk about the Bible and argue for their faith to convince me that they are right
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I say this as a pretty hardline atheist - why?
RayKyler · 22-25, F
@CountScrofula I’ve seen a lot already and I find the odds against evolution so staggering that I find it difficult to believe. So then, where did we come from? And if there is a God, what does that mean for me?
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@RayKyler Why is evolution difficult to believe? We can watch it happen in short-lived species and fossil record is pretty clear.

Also, it's not like the contest is evolution vs God. Both can exist at once. Or it could be neither and something else entirely.
RayKyler · 22-25, F
@CountScrofula We can watch adaptation happen, no evolution from one species to another. And the fossil record is severely lacking if there is a common ancestor. Besides, the odds of a single amino acid forming in the perfect conditions is crazy low, let alone all of life. Besides, the evidence also points to a younger earth; that theory allows for much more accurate predictions of magnetic fields
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@RayKyler Rather than getting into detail in your argument I'll ask a different question.

I work in a research university and several of my colleagues rely on the basic facts of evolution to do their job every day. Like if you're right, they're either incompetent or liars. As well as every other biologist on the planet.

That seems to strain plausibility for me.
RayKyler · 22-25, F
@CountScrofula Every is hardly true. There are a significant number of creationist scientists who you must believe are incompetent or liars. But also, I was under the impression most science is about what we see happening now and not what happened thousands or millions of years ago. That is, they can be perfectly competent in their jobs while making false speculations about what happened in the past
DamnFeelz · 36-40, F
I think part of the adaptation versus evolution confusion is due to a misunderstanding of DNA. Species categorization is an organization method. In reality, what matters is DNA levels of commonality, changes, and extensive changes that result in levels of differences (incompatibilities versus compatibilities).

My point is once you stop falsely perceiving life forms by species distinction evolution becomes less controversial @RayKyler
RayKyler · 22-25, F
@DamnFeelz the point is, though, there are phases between species that would either offer no benefits in intermediated stages for evolution to prefer those traits or, irreducible complexity, it needs all parts at once to even function at all and therefore could form through a series of adaptations
DamnFeelz · 36-40, F
The idea of ‘phases’ is a gross oversimplification though. The phase model is the categorization I was referring to. Your reductionist view of evolution is flawed. You’re also incorrect about it needing ‘all parts’ to function on a molecular level. All I can say is if you’re interested in this topic then you should start researching how DNA itself works because that may fill in some gaps you’re perplexed by. It’s not really something I can sufficiently paraphrase for you on SW though. @RayKyler
RayKyler · 22-25, F
@DamnFeelz Of course, I cannot explain things in full scientific lingo, but I have done significant research into this topic and irreducible complexity is a valid theory. There are other arguments that I haven’t found valid defenses for