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The Way Of All The Earth

(With comments in brackets by the "One Wayers" and "One Name Only" types AKA - to themselves - as the "true christians"; this to save them the bother of doing it themselves)

I have read deeply and widely in all of our world's Faith Traditions ( "not many wise are called" ) and the most abysmal of all creeds is the "One Way, Born Again, One Name Only" creed - which in fact is a modernism born of Martin Luther, the printing press and mass literacy - which in effect turned the Living Word into the Word as Text)

My posts (under various names) are more often than not very positive and try to present other forms of Christianity that have been extant since the very beginnings of the Christian Faith, that speak of an eternal reconciliation and restoration of ALL things ( "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" )

Yes, Universalism. It has a posh name, but I can't actually spell it or pronounce it, so Universalism will do.

That is it. I post this so as to draw out the "nay-sayers". As each posts the various Bible verses that "prove" me wrong, I will simply BLOCK them so as to have no further dealings with them on this Forum. Experience has finally taught me that it is pointless to try debating with them, either by quoting the copious Bible verses that "prove" me right, or directing them to the - again - copious books written throughout the generations by Bible based/believing Christians who have championed Universalism.



In the name of Amida, the Buddha of Infinite Light, who is always making the gestures - mudras - of "Come" and "Hear the teachings" but is depicted as looking back, her* first concern always being for those who do not, or cannot "come" for any particular reason.

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* Or Him, or It.
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LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
@TheWildEcho Sadly, it is NOT Christ's "work on the Cross" that divides us, but is in fact your own allegiance to a particular theology that you subscribe to.

Really, Christianity is far deeper and wider than all this "one way" spiel that many here represent.

But yes, I will block you for now. I know from experience that it is virtually impossible to convince those such as yourself to look at other theologies, to read deeper and wider, to come to know the Universal Christ.

Let's face it, when anyone is convinced that they have "all truth" and equate their own beliefs with Reality itself, why look elsewhere? Fortunately we are nit "saved" by being right, but by Grace. A gift.

All the best.
TheWildEcho · 61-69, M
@LesDawsonsPiano i agree that grace is a gift from God but you can only accept it by recognising Jesus sacrifice on the cross, if it were possible by any other means then Jesus wouldn't have had to go through the agony!
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
@TheWildEcho The causal basis of "salvation" is Grace. Gift. Given.

Our "recognition" of it comes in infinite ways. Not by some "narrow way" as defined by a particular theological position born of time and place, restricted to the days of this life.

The consequence of this is Universalism - simply because God "wills that all be saved" (Timothy) and God's will will not be thwarted. Again, His mercy endures forever.

This is NOT new age stuff, not a "modernism" of any description. It is in fact deeply embedded in the Christian Faith from the very earliest days.

All the best
TheWildEcho · 61-69, M
@LesDawsonsPiano so you believe Christ's sufferings were in vain?
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
@TheWildEcho How so? In a fully Incarnational Christianity, where the Universal Christ suffers in us, with us, and as us, such suffering is fully efficacious. Certainly so from the Universalist perspective.

He doth give His joy to all:
He becomes an infant small,
He becomes a man of woe,
He doth feel the sorrow too.

Think not thou canst sigh a sigh,
And thy Maker is not by:
Think not thou canst weep a tear,
And thy Maker is not near.

O He gives to us His joy,
That our grief He may destroy:
Till our grief is fled and gone
He doth sit by us and moan.


Lines from "On Another's Sorrow" William Blake.

Of course, if one insists that the vast majority end up suffering perpetually, then yes, Christ's suffering are in effect in vain.
TheWildEcho · 61-69, M
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
@TheWildEcho What on earth is sad about my last post? Please explain yourself.

Thanks
TheWildEcho · 61-69, M
@LesDawsonsPiano its sad that you.are rejecting what Christ did on the cross when He died in agony for you
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
@TheWildEcho Quote me where I have actually "rejected" it. Specifically. Please note, rejecting your OWN precise understanding of it and the theology that goes with it, does not count.

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