Half of all christians who call Jesus LORD, who believe they are saved, are NOT going to heaven, Jesus says

@LoneVoice He made us to worship him, and follow what he says. If God says don't have sex before marriage then don't. Or don't get divorced, then don't get divorced. If God says don't remarry if your mate leaves, then don't. If he says to give 10% to missions, then do that.
[b][c=BF0000] "These are those who love me those who keep my commands"[/c][/b]

@Carazaa Right, and all of that is STILL not good enough for half. There comes a time where one has to draw a line in the sand and say ENOUGH! I prefer not to live forever in a kingdom that craves and demands so much control IF that is the case. God also created us with a backbone.

@Carazaa Actually Paul said it is ok if your mate leaves you, to remarry, especially if they are unbelievers. God cares more about not remarrying if YOU leave your mate for flippant reasons verses your mate leaving you against your wishes.

@LoneVoice This only applies to christians.

@SpiritualMan We can remarry? Jesus says that[b][c=BF0000] "To marry a divorced woman is to commit adultery"[/c][/b]

@Carazaa Context is everything. Paul elaborated more, so i believe the totalty of all the passages, that is good enough for me.

@SpiritualMan We can make every supporting argument to anything we want to do, but I take no chances
I try to crucify the flesh to be safe. Jesus says to not even give an appearance of sin.

@Carazaa Nice but I don't believe in bekng stricter than God unless a specific circumstance calls for it as led by the Holy Spirit.

@Carazaa If you are divorced against your will and remarry I don't consider that am appearance of sin.

@SpiritualMan [b] "Whoever marries a divorced woman, commits adultery[/b]" You ignore the Bible or you follow it! I follow it!

@Carazaa Ah but CONTEXT of that was people under the teaching of the Pharisees putting their wives away for trivial reasons. HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH PAUL, where HE SAYS, it is ok to that if an unbelieving spouse departs and then you are free to remarry? THAT is in the BIBLE TOO. Different context, different circumstance, different rules by God. Jesus said that sexual sin is a just cause to remarry after divorce. CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT and Paul from I Cor 7, and Paul is just as inspired as Jesus:

"10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?"

So then the unbelieving spouse leaving allows for remarriage of the believer. If you don't consider context the bible SEEMS to contradict itself, when you consider context then everything in the bible harmonizes perfectly.

@SpiritualMan
We should not make excuses to sin! God tells us because of the hardness of our hearts divorce is permitted. If we love God we do NOT have hard hearts. Remarrying is NOT permitted. So no church should ever allow divorce, nor remarrying unless a mate has past away. I do not want to have a hard heart. I don't take any chances. Jesus is coming soon and I want him to say Good and faithful servant. My mate wanted a divorce many years ago so I allowed it because we are called to peace. So I am free to live separate, but not free to remarry until My x husband has passed away, because God says we should reconcile or stay single until death do us part. We can't lie, and I took an oath "to death us do part"!

My x married another and then wanted me back and got a divorce from her, but at that time I thought he should not divorce his new wife so I did not marry him again, but dedicate my entire life to my kids, my work, and serving the Lord. I have had many proposals to marry many men, but I feel I can not remarry again until my x husband has died. Because then I am a widow.

Widows are free to remarry! God has these rules to protect children, and their inheritances, and to keep the families intact! My x told me he found God and he and I are friends now. Our children will not have to share an inheritance with any step siblings because there aren't any step Moms or step Dads or step children. My daughter and her mate have a happy relationship and their own happy children now.

We can't live for this life we have to trust in God and[b] obey him. [/b]Then we will be prosperous and successful in everything we do and God will answer all our prayers.

@Carazaa What you said about never remarrying after a divorce contradicts what Paul said for certain circumstances, and Jesus permitted it for sexual immorality.

@SpiritualMan Nope, you make excuses so you can do what you want. Of course we are forgiven for all our sins if we become christians after we sin. But we are NOT Christians if we twist scripture to do whatever we want! Nope, nope, nope!

@Carazaa If I am drawing on the bible with the proper context they aren't excuses, but rather it is the total picture.

@Carazaa Am i twisting what Jesus or Paul said?

@SpiritualMan Yes, You are not born again following Jesus!

@Carazaa Actually I am saved, I know the Lord.

@Carazaa This video is food for thought:

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@LoneVoice This video is FOOD FOR THOUGHT, I like Tony Woodcock:

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@SpiritualMan You say you know the Lord! Just because we call Jesus LORD and we are "christians", does not mean that Jesus knows us. 50% of all christians will not enter heaven, "I never knew you" He will say to them! We have to crucify the flesh daily. That is the sign we love him and are born again. This life is short, and then we face Jesus.
[b][c=BF0000]“It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”[/c][/b]

@LoneVoice OK your choice! Then don't complain if God doesn't answer your prayers!

@Carazaa God never [i]has[/i] answered my prayers and I have never complained.
I can tell you this... I am [b]not[/b] afraid to die, so we shall see.

@LoneVoice
[quote]but it seems that Jesus takes pleasure in making people jump through a lot of hoops. If he is like that, I'd rather not.[/quote]

No. *His* burden on us is light.

Just read the four Gospels, don't listen to "teachers" who pervert it.

@SpiritualMan Nowhere in the Bible does it say the divorced mate is free to marry. They are free from their mate, yes, but not to remarry anyone but their x, not someone else regardless if they are Godly or not. They [b]are free NOT to reconcile, to stay single, if they so chose [/b]. Nowhere does it say they can marry someone else entirely, only widows can do that.
[b][big]"To marry a divorced woman is committing adultery" [/big][/b]THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR!