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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Genesis 6: 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Noah is the only character in the Bible who did exactly as he had been commanded to do without whining about it. And when his job was done, he killed lots of the animals he had in the ark and had a big barbeque and got falling down drunk. And his decendants were as bad as the people who had gotten killed in the "flood". So, the net gain was zero.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes I guess you missed the part where your verse presents God as:
* An entity who's works are perfect
* An entity who's just
* An entity that does no wrong
* An entity that is faithfull (a rock)
* An entity that is upright and just
However... in Genesis 6, that same God, that same entity expresses:
* A being that has regrets about it's creation (thus regret about his own actions)
* A being who's heart is troubled (so much for faithfull and being a rock)
* A being that is about to genocide an entire race, and all the innocent creatures that never touched the fruit in the garden of Eden (I would qualify that as something "wrong" ... And at the ver least we can say that it's works were not perfect according to it's own measures)
... and then it also changes his mind. Which happens with concious entities that have troubled souls. Because after it's descision to do all the genociding, it suddenly favors this one person and decides that he might be cool enough to keep around for a while.
The description of Deuteronomy can't be further apart from the reality of the opening verses of Genesis 6.
* An entity who's works are perfect
* An entity who's just
* An entity that does no wrong
* An entity that is faithfull (a rock)
* An entity that is upright and just
However... in Genesis 6, that same God, that same entity expresses:
* A being that has regrets about it's creation (thus regret about his own actions)
* A being who's heart is troubled (so much for faithfull and being a rock)
* A being that is about to genocide an entire race, and all the innocent creatures that never touched the fruit in the garden of Eden (I would qualify that as something "wrong" ... And at the ver least we can say that it's works were not perfect according to it's own measures)
... and then it also changes his mind. Which happens with concious entities that have troubled souls. Because after it's descision to do all the genociding, it suddenly favors this one person and decides that he might be cool enough to keep around for a while.
The description of Deuteronomy can't be further apart from the reality of the opening verses of Genesis 6.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 You make some good points but my statement about Noah is correct. Even the Jesus character whined and wanted a better deal. The Noah story illustrates complete obedience and total loyalty to the Boss. It illustrates the First Commandment (Exodus 34:11-16) and shows how a person is supposed to obey the Boss (God, the emperor, the chief priest, the family father). Disobedience to any of them warrants the death penalty.
Noah was given an impossible task and got minimal instructions on how to do it but he never questioned his orders. He got busy and got it done without any whining. It's like being in the military when you are ordered to charge an enemy machine gun nest or you are on a ship and ordered to close the hatch with you in a flooding compartment and you will die as a result but your actions will save the ship and the rest of the crew.
The Noah story also illustrates good planning and logistics in war. He was able to amass enough food to survive the war when the enemy forces were swarming all over the land.
Noah was given an impossible task and got minimal instructions on how to do it but he never questioned his orders. He got busy and got it done without any whining. It's like being in the military when you are ordered to charge an enemy machine gun nest or you are on a ship and ordered to close the hatch with you in a flooding compartment and you will die as a result but your actions will save the ship and the rest of the crew.
The Noah story also illustrates good planning and logistics in war. He was able to amass enough food to survive the war when the enemy forces were swarming all over the land.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes Yeah, you can talk about Noahs' obedience as much as you want. But I was replying to your original post... and that has nothing to do about Noah. Just about the nature of God. But in the Genesis storyline, all those ideas about God kinda fall apart.
Grasping on to something totally unrelated, doesn't change the contradictions I'm pointing at. It just creates something else to talk about. I however want to keep it on the original toppic and not let you gish gallop far away from your original verse.
Grasping on to something totally unrelated, doesn't change the contradictions I'm pointing at. It just creates something else to talk about. I however want to keep it on the original toppic and not let you gish gallop far away from your original verse.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 The biblical God characters were simply the series of emperors, kings, and chief priests who ruled the dominant Middle Eastern empire in ancient times. The last one bit the dust when the Babylonian emperor croaked around 530 BC and the empire collapsed. The biblical God character is never, ever, coming back because there is no celestial deity of any kind in this solar system.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes Sigh... It's not even your post, so my appologies for that. That's what happens when I only look at profile pictures.
Still... I don't get why the focus is on Noah, considering what I'm actually replying too. We literally are having 2 completely diffrent conversations.
Still... I don't get why the focus is on Noah, considering what I'm actually replying too. We literally are having 2 completely diffrent conversations.