Pleasantly surprised about this one..

This one has been Seeking..

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The only thing missing is he never mentioned Jesus... You're not there if Jesus is not with you.... I hope He ends up with Jesus..

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BibleData · M

[quote] Jesus is The LORD.. Jesus and the Father are one.. Jesus is God. He was not an Idol.. He is God manifest in the flesh..[/quote]

Paul said there are many Lords and many God, but to us only one of each. What does that mean? It means that even though the Bible calls Moses, Satan, Jesus, the judges of Israel among others Gods, there is only one God above all. Only Jehovah is called God almighty. Jesus is called a mighty god. The word God means venerated/mighty the word Lord means having authority, usually, but not always granted by another. Godfather, Landlord.

So, not only Jesus was God manifest, so Moses and the judges. Jesus said God's will rather than his be done, he said why do you call me good, none are good except God. At John 1:1 the Greek theos is what is called an anarthrous theos. There are many cases of a singular anarthrous predicate noun preceding the verb, such as in Mark 6:49; 11:32; John 4:19; 6:70; 8:44; 9:17; 10:1, 13, 33; 12:6. Where "a" or "an" is inserted "an apparition" or "a spirit" or "a liar" or "a prophet" or "a god."

In the article "Qualitative Anarthrous Predicate Nouns: Mark 15:39 and John 1:1," published in the Journal of Biblical Literature, Vol. 92, Philadelphia, 1973, p. 85, Philip B. Harner said about John 1:1: "with an anarthrous predicate preceding the verb, are primarily qualitative in meaning. They indicate that the logos has the nature of theos. There is no basis for regarding the predicate theos as definite." On p. 87 of his article, Harner concluded: "In John 1:1 I think that the qualitative force of the predicate is so prominent that the noun cannot be regarded as definite."

In other words Jesus was a god, which is completely in harmony with scripture. Jesus was prophetically called a mighty god (Hebrew El Gibbohr) at Isaiah 9:6.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@BibleData

[quote]Paul said there are many Lords and many God, but to us only one of each.[/quote]

Quote the chapter and verse then...

[quote]Jesus is called a mighty god.[/quote] No He is Not He is called [big][u]The[/u][/big] Mighty God not a mighty God..

(Isaiah 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, [c=7700B2][u]The[/u] mighty God[/c], [u][c=7700B2]The everlasting Father[/c][/u], The Prince of Peace."

He is as you can see also called the [c=7700B2][big]The everlasting Father[/big][/c] It's important to actually read the Bible.. It is talking about The Actual God here not another god.. Again lots of people call Jesus Lord and falsly quote the verse below leaving out the [c=7700B2][u]THE[/u][/c] in the verse..

(1 Corinthians 12:3) "Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that [c=7700B2]no man can say that Jesus is [big][u]the[/u][/big] Lord, but by the Holy Ghost[/c]."

Jesus is The LORD..

The Bible even declares that the One who freed the Hebrews from Egypt was Jesus...

(1 Corinthians 10:1-4) "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; {2} And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; {3} And did all eat the same spiritual meat; {4} And did all drink the same spiritual drink: [c=7700B2]for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that [u]Rock was Christ[/u][/c]."

And who do you believe raised Jesus from the dead? Many Christiasn will say God did because of the following verse

(Romans 10:8-9) "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; {9} [c=7700B2]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that [u]God hath raised him from the dead[/u], thou shalt be saved[/c]."

So should One believe that God raised Jesus from the dead? Absolutly .. But then in the Gospels we read the following from The Gospel of John::

(John 2:18-22) "¶ Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? {19} Jesus answered and said unto them, [c=BF0000]Destroy this temple, and [u]in three days I will raise it up[/u][/c]. {20} Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? {21} [u][c=7700B2]But he spake of the temple of his body[/c][/u]. {22} When therefore [c=7700B2][u]he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said[/u][/c]."

So Jesus Raised Himself From the Dead.. And His disciples believed what Jesus had predicted.. So the disciples believed that Jesus raised Himself from the dead.. And Christians must also believe that God raised Jesus from the dead.. But this is only a contradition,, a stumbling stome,, to those who do not believe Jesus and God are One..

I could go into the Book of Revelation chapter One and show you Jesus identifying Himself as the Alpha and Omeg,, The First and the Last,, The Almighty.. and The First and the Last.. But i will let others read Revelation chapter one if they want to read all about it..

BibleData · M

@Adstar [quote]Quote the chapter and verse then...[/quote]

1 Corinthians 8:5-6 (ESV) - " For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth — as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords” — yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist."

[quote](Isaiah 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."[/quote]

If you compare translations of Isaiah 9:6 (https://biblehub.com/isaiah/9-6.htm) the term "The Mighty God" is used only in two translations of the 32 listed. There isn't any justification to include a semblance of the definite article where it doesn't appear. That's why no accurate translation would do so. Can you justify it's inclusion?

Adstar · 56-60, M

@BibleData

Reading in context you will see that Paul first establishes states that an idol is nothing and there is no other God but One.. He goes on and talks about things galled gods... He is not declaring that there are multiple Gods in existence.. The many gods ( note lower cap g ) he is talking about is the many gods the pagans believe in.. But that is not acknowledging those gods as being Gods..

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) "As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, [c=7700B2]we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is [u]none other God but one[/u][/c]. {5} For though there be that[c=7700B2][u] are called gods[/u][/c], whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) {6} But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."

As for your second parragraph can any translation justify it's exclusion? Jesus calls Himself the Almighty in the book of Revelation chapoter one.. So you must justify rejecting both instances..

BibleData · M

"Christians" are obsessed with Jesus, who's primary mission was to lead his followers to his father, Jehovah God. They miss the point because they made an idol of Jesus and forgot Jehovah for the traditions of men.

JP equates God with politics as do many of the conservative right, who are mostly "Christian." They fail to see that it was Satan who tempted Jesus with the kingdoms of men. Satan could do that because he owned it. The Conservative "Christians" are in for a rude awakening when America goes to war with Jehovah God and his Prince, Christ Jesus at Armageddon.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@BibleData Jesus is The LORD.. Jesus and the Father are one.. Jesus is God. He was not an Idol.. He is God manifest in the flesh..

As for your speculation on the USA going to war at the battle of Armageddon.. all you have to do is read where the army of the beast comes from in the Bible to debunk what you say... The Kingdoms of the east will cross the dried up Euphrates rivers

(Revelation 16:12) "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, [c=7700B2]that the way of the [u]kings of the east[/u] might be prepared[/c]."

The army of the beast will be made up primarily of solders from the east... East of the river Euphrates.. Not from the west..

Actually,, personally,, i believe the USA will have already been destroyed years before the battle of Armageddon starts. As part of the wars and talk of wars that proceed the End times events..

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