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How to do you convince your parents to marry the guy you love ?

My parents are Christians, very much into preaching God’s word in the church circles, and are against my relationship with a Muslim boy. Religion is the only reason (as far as they tell me). My parents quote Bible verses that speak about God commanding against inter-religious relationships and marriages. But, I love the guy and neither of us are in the state of moving on.
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Adstar · 56-60, M
May God bless your parents for standing up for the truth and advising you not to marry that muslim..

This is not to discredit your feelings.. But the Will of God is the will of God and it is for your good to avoid marrying a muslim..
SW-User
@Adstar How can you say so?
Is love between two individuals bounded within the religious boundaries? Isn't it unfair?
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SW-User Because generally a mans religious belief, If he truly believes in allah ( in this case ) will cause him to force his wife to submit to islam and force his children to become muslims..

A wife's religion and opinion on what her children should be introduced to, As far as religion is concerned, will come second to the mans belief..

If the man truly believes in allah and that mohammad is a prophet of allah then for him it is an eternal life and death issue of importance.. So such a man ( if he is a true devout muslim ) Cannot compromise with his wife on religion..

That is why the Holy Bible states..

(2 Corinthians 6:14-15) "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? {15} And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"

Now if you are a true Christian you will believe the only way to eternal life with God is by believing Jesus and trusting in the Atonement He secured by His death on the cross, that pays the penalty for all your sins, thus gifting for you eternal life.. Now you will believe it for your children also.. So when your husband refuses to allow you to teach your Children about the Christian way of salvation, You will be faced with the unbelievably harsh reality that the kids you love will not have eternity with God but will have eternity in the Lake of Fire because they will be indoctrinated into islam and be trained to see Christianity as evil..


Now you may not be a devout Christian and your husband might not be a devout muslim if so then you can disregard me points.. Because i made my point as if you where an actual Christian.. If Faith means very little to you and you are prepared to go through some fake conversion process to become a muslim woman then so be it..
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@Adstar I disagree with you on multiple points.

1.)
[quote]A wife's religion and opinion on what her children should be introduced to, As far as religion is concerned, will come second to the mans belief.[/quote]

Those days of oppression are gone. Women are no more secondary to men. If Bible says that woman is secondary to a man, then I can only pity with that book. I cannot accept it.

2.) [quote]Now you may not be a devout Christian and your husband might not be a devout muslim if so then you can disregard me points.. Because i made my point as if you where an actual Christian.. [/quote]

We both are not that religious. What faith children should follow can be decided by them. They are free to do so or even live as atheists.

3.)[quote]If Faith means very little to you and you are prepared to go through some fake conversion process to become a muslim woman then so be it..[/quote]

Again this is disrespectful for a woman. What makes you think that a woman should convert to husband's religion ? Can't it be otherwise ? Or can't both keep their religion ? Or both don't follow any religion.

For this world to improve the oppressive mindset towards women need to be changed.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SW-User
[quote]Those days of oppression are gone. Women are no more secondary to men. If Bible says that woman is secondary to a man, then I can only pity with that book. I cannot accept it. [/quote]

We are talking about the quran and a marrying a muslim man.. We are not talking about you marrying a Christian man ok.. We are talking about you marrying a muslim man..

And your point about woman being equal will not mean a thing if the man is or becomes a true muslim in the future... The quran teaches muslims that woman are inferior to men.. Remember islam is not submissive to western feminist ideology.. So what i said was true.. You agreeing or disagreeing with it will be irrelevant if your future muslim husband decides your opinion on it is irrelevant..


[quote]We both are not that religious. What faith children should follow can be decided by them. They are free to do so or even live as atheists.[/quote]

Again if he decides to become more devout and a true muslim your kids will have no freedom to decide in the matter..


[quote]Again this is disrespectful for a woman. What makes you think that a woman should convert to husband's religion ? [/quote]

I was telling you the way it will be.. I was NOT stating that i agreed with it.. Obviously as a Christian man i do not want you to convert to islam,, but a muslim man if He is devout will demand that his wife converts to islam.. Usually he will demand this happen before marriage, but if he is a half hearted muslim like your BF seems to be then It will probably be later when He finally becomes more religious and gets serious about his islamic religion..
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Adstar · 56-60, M
@Butane Same thing.. Same thing for a Jew same thing for a mormon same thing for a Jehovah's witness same thing for an atheist.. A Christian should only marry another Christian..
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Adstar · 56-60, M
@Butane Whether it is considered Liberal or conservative i am a Christian.. So you can call it what you like.. That's just your response to the Message of the LORD..

Religion to a person of Faith is one of the core issues in their lives so it affects Marriages and often leads to break ups.. That's why most religions have teachings against marriage outside of their faith..

I am not holding a gun to anyone's head.. Of course people are free to marry who they like.. But i was asked about Christianity and marriage so i give the Christian perspective.. People can accept it or pass.. It's their lives..

I think there are people out there who have experienced what it is like to marry thinking that their love was the only important thing.. They soon found out that religious differences smashed their relationship.. You are pretty naive to think that human love is perfect and can overcome everything..
@Adstar If neither she nor her fiance are practicing their religion, and have agreed to raise any children without religion, they're not "unequally yoked." That would require her to be a practicing Christian, which she's not.

As for the guy deciding later that he wants to be a practicing Muslim, there's no way to predict that. What if she marries a Christian man who later decides he wants to follow Wicca or Scientology? The only way to avoid that would be to not marry anyone.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@LeopoldBloom To your second point.. The Bible guides a Christian to remain married to a wiccan or a Scientologist if they can live with them without troubles.. Otherwise if they face resistance from them and are being forced to compromise their faith. Then they should divorce..

But yeah i have had another discussion with AliceS and it has become clear to me she is contemptuous of Christianity.. Must be terrible for her parents who sound like devout Christians.. But such is life. The word of God divides people like a two edged sword as the scripture says.. Daughter against mother and so on.. And it does..
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@Adstar The word of God is local to one's belief system. You are right, I am contemptuous to Christianity beacause in the name of living to the word of god the Christians often become abusive towards other faith. Who are Christians to tell the people of other religions that their belief and God whom they worship are wrong? Before reading Bible I believe Christians should focus on getting right moral education, which emphasizes on respecting people irrespective of culture, race, geography,religion ...
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SW-User If one genuinely believes that a religion is false and leading those who believe it to the eternal lake of fire.. And if one has any love for their fellow human beings in that religion then one will come out in opposition to the religion they believe is false...

Now if a muslim comes up to me and tells me Christianity is false and they believing that Jesus is only a human being and that my belief that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh is haram / and evil sin.. Then i don't get all upset and bent out of shape.. I admire that muslim for having the courage to come forward to me and give me a warning that they believe i am going to Jahannam ( hell) for believing it.. At lest the muslim cares enough to make an effort, an attempt to convert me to islam because he or she believes islam is the only way to eternity with allah..

But people like you AliceS if you where a muslim or end up being forced to convert to islam by your future husband i doubt you would give half a damn about anyone's eternal destiny because people like you think it is more important not to risk causing offense to others then saving them from being cast into jahannam.. People like you.. And there are plenty of self confessed Christians and muslims and Jews like you.. Do not have any genuine love for the eternal outcomes of others.. They pat themselves on the back thinking they are good people because they never caused anyone else discomfort by sharing their beliefs and concerns about their beliefs to others..

Your right moral education is to stand back and watch millions of people walk off a cliff and watch them fall into a fiery pit of eternal torment.. Yes ""respect"" their choice of walking into hell.. Just gloat and pat yourself on your woke SJW back happy that you have virtue signaled to the world how tolerant and accepting your are..

I would much rather spend a couple of hours walking and talking and debating with a genuine ISIS member or a Jew who thinks Jesus was an evil sorcerer then spend time with people who are far more interested in scoring woke points and getting the approval of other woke fakes with their virtue signalling B.S..
SW-User
@Adstar I think it is a waste of time to explain it to many Christians in a logical way.

So let me convey the same message in a way that you understand and in your own language.
bible is nothing but a fiction and jesus is a myth. bible is poisonous and reading it and telling others to read it is like endorsing mass suicide. It mentions about jesus, demon and satan. All 3 are same. Jesus is Satan and Satan is Jesus. Demon is same Jesus and Satan. Don't worship demons or Satan or jesus. You will not only end up in eternal hell but also make the life of people on earth a hell.

I am not trying to abuse what you believe but I am trying to save you from jumping from a cliff because I care for you. Since I know Bible is poisonous, it is my duty to caution you. Follow God but not Jesus or Satan or demon.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SW-User Well just as i thought.. You're a antichrist and have expressed your hatred for Jesus.. But just remember your future husband if you marry him is a muslim and muslims believe Jesus is a prophet of God.. Your blaspheming agianst Jesus in islam is worthy of the penalty of death..

Calling Jesus satan is the ultimate abuse so don't spit on my LORD Jesus and then say you are not trying to abuse what i believe.. Thats just absolute BS..

Oh and Jesus is the LORD.. Jesus is God.. Jesus and the Father are One..
Your rejection of Jesus is rejection of God.. That will be confirmed for you on the day of judgement..
SW-User
@Adstar First and foremost, my opinion is not my boyfriend's opinion. I have every right to have my own independent opinion. And to me a if a person whom people believe as God, tells others that the God whom others worship are false and endorse propagating this lie is a real Satan or demon!

Now when you say other Gods are false, people performing rituals with Idols are wrong, other Gods are Satans or people worship other Gods because of the influence of Satan etc .. be prepared to receive the same feedback about your god in the same language you communicate to others!
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Adstar · 56-60, M
@Butane It's gone way bejond the issue of who is going to marry who... That's trivial compared to declaring Jesus to be satan.. Marrying a muslim is not good.. But calling Jesus satan is 10,000 times worse..
SW-User
@Adstar The person who inspires his followers to mention the God whom the other people worship are the true demon, the true Satan and the source of all evil.
So calling a hypocrite is a problem but if an hypocrite inspires others to abuse the culture of other people it is not a problem.

Let me make it very clear to you. GET THE RIGHT MORAL EDUCATION BEFORE YOU READ YOUR SCRIPTURE BECAUSE IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE SCRIPTURE YOU READ LACK MORAL VALUES AND IT SEEMS TO BE A BOOK OF GOSSIP!

AND ALSO,,,,Note this in your book.
Never abuse any religion or culture because your God said so. Instead abuse the one who asked you to spread this gossip.
Understood ?
You and your God is not saving anyone from falling from a cliff by abusing their culture. Saving from what ??
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SW-User
@Butane Really? Why so?

[quote]You attacked Christians for declaring that other religions are false::[/quote]
Do you think other religions and God are not important to them?

If Christians do not want to hear bad about their religion or God, they should stop abusing other religion and Gods. Simple logic. Otherwise it is called hypocrisy.

Those days of colonial rule are gone. So it is no more one way traffic.