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SweetNSassy · F
Carazaa · F
@SweetNSassy Why do you think so?
SweetNSassy · F
@Carazaa because I don’t think God would purposely burn down a city just to leave that in one town, seems more like something a person would do 🤷♀️
Carazaa · F
@SweetNSassy OK but God is in control of everything, right?
SweetNSassy · F
@Carazaa actually God lets people have free will so you don’t really know if that was of God or not. Just sayin
Carazaa · F
@SweetNSassy It is true that there are arsons burning forests but even if it was an arson the town burned, and the sign didn't burn. I think God wants us to take notice of the verse. To me it is a sign he is completing the work of sending out the gospel and he is coming this year or by 2023, just saying.
SweetNSassy · F
@Carazaa Idk 🤷♀️ But if I was a cop I would be suspicious 🤨
Carazaa · F
@SweetNSassy Ofcourse there are police investigating the fires.
Carazaa · F
@SweetNSassy They have cought one arsonist already, he's in jail. But there are fires in many countries, many more in California and I don't think he has been to all the countries where there are fires. The storms, fires, and earthquakes are because of our sins I believe. There are a lot of crazy murderers out there. But we are all sinners. This arsonists is not christians he is a murderer! But we are not better than him. God is mad because of our hate in the world.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Carazaa Are some of the other fires thought to be arson attacks then?
Earthquakes happen irrespective of humans; and plenty of them have damaged or destroyed places of worship. How careless of God!
Handy being able to ignore or refuse to understand basic physical geographical processes beyond all human control, in order to blame humans en masse for those processes.
Earthquakes happen irrespective of humans; and plenty of them have damaged or destroyed places of worship. How careless of God!
Handy being able to ignore or refuse to understand basic physical geographical processes beyond all human control, in order to blame humans en masse for those processes.
Carazaa · F
@ArishMell How careless of God? Are you kidding? Please... We are sinful and God has said he will destroy this earth as he comes to judge the world. With his stripes we are healed. I know him and He is preparing to come back and I can't wait for the new heaven and the new earth where there are no more tears. We need to repent and turn to God! I will not discuss or argue with people who don't know the Bible and just blame God for their own sins. God says
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They reject me because their deeds are evil"
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Carazaa I was being very tongue-in-cheek with the "careless" comment; but natural events happen regardless of people. Some forest fires might be by human causes: arson, accident or carelessness. An earthquake or storm is part of how the planet "works", so theologically, part of God's normal activities. We are hurt or killed when we find ourselves in the way of the process.
You may have a favourite beach where you and many others go swimming; but would you try swimming when a storm gale has piled the sea into big, breaking waves? Of course not, it could kill you; but the sea is rough because God wants to oxygenate the water, re-shape the coast, move sea-bed sediments about; while the storm's rains are replenishing the rivers and land. Not to kill you.
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Obviously we cannot divide humanity into two groups - unbelieving Bad and believing Good.
There are Bad people, there are Good people; by nature or circumstances.
Some of the Bad are very very bad by nature; many simply and occasionally misjudge or err, or are momentarily weak.
Some of the Good go to extraordinary lengths to do good works; most are simply kind and caring, respecting other people, in their ordimnary lives.
Some Bad are religious (or claim it), and do indeed blame God for their "sins"; or claim their actions are supporting God. Others are agnostic, or atheist.
Some Good are religious, some agnostic, some atheist.
You do not need to be a non-believer to be bad.
You do not need to be a believer to be good.
This applies in ANY sect of ANY religion - your is not the only one - or any shade of theological doubt or denial.
I think we can agree on all that.
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You believe the Earth and everything natural on it, like the rest of the Universe it is in, was made and is being driven by the deity the Abrahamic Hebrews and their followers now, like you, call God.
Fair enough. That's your free choice. Other deities, or interpretions of the same God, are available, of course.
The Earth is an astromomical object of immense but fairly finite age, irrespective of humanity's tiny time on it - <1M years so far so maybe another 2-3M. Irrespective too of the mess humans have made of it within the last millennia - our worst enemies are us, not poor old God.
So why would that God want to destroy the Earth hence everything on it, just to get at the misfits and failures among the humans he evolved into being? If he was going to do that, why are you and I alive now? Why did he not wipe our ancestors out long ago?
If I was a practicing Christian I would reject that divine callousness, would refuse to see God as so petty and cruel. I might see Him judging the bad individuals, yes: I can see the theological point there.
Wholesale destruction of good and bad people and everything else with them? Not by any logical, caring and loving god.
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God will eventually destroy the Earth, or at least anything on it, as part of operating the Universe (when the Sun itself "dies"); but if it holds any life by then it's extremely unlikely to include humans as we know ourselves.
You may have a favourite beach where you and many others go swimming; but would you try swimming when a storm gale has piled the sea into big, breaking waves? Of course not, it could kill you; but the sea is rough because God wants to oxygenate the water, re-shape the coast, move sea-bed sediments about; while the storm's rains are replenishing the rivers and land. Not to kill you.
'
Obviously we cannot divide humanity into two groups - unbelieving Bad and believing Good.
There are Bad people, there are Good people; by nature or circumstances.
Some of the Bad are very very bad by nature; many simply and occasionally misjudge or err, or are momentarily weak.
Some of the Good go to extraordinary lengths to do good works; most are simply kind and caring, respecting other people, in their ordimnary lives.
Some Bad are religious (or claim it), and do indeed blame God for their "sins"; or claim their actions are supporting God. Others are agnostic, or atheist.
Some Good are religious, some agnostic, some atheist.
You do not need to be a non-believer to be bad.
You do not need to be a believer to be good.
This applies in ANY sect of ANY religion - your is not the only one - or any shade of theological doubt or denial.
I think we can agree on all that.
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You believe the Earth and everything natural on it, like the rest of the Universe it is in, was made and is being driven by the deity the Abrahamic Hebrews and their followers now, like you, call God.
Fair enough. That's your free choice. Other deities, or interpretions of the same God, are available, of course.
The Earth is an astromomical object of immense but fairly finite age, irrespective of humanity's tiny time on it - <1M years so far so maybe another 2-3M. Irrespective too of the mess humans have made of it within the last millennia - our worst enemies are us, not poor old God.
So why would that God want to destroy the Earth hence everything on it, just to get at the misfits and failures among the humans he evolved into being? If he was going to do that, why are you and I alive now? Why did he not wipe our ancestors out long ago?
If I was a practicing Christian I would reject that divine callousness, would refuse to see God as so petty and cruel. I might see Him judging the bad individuals, yes: I can see the theological point there.
Wholesale destruction of good and bad people and everything else with them? Not by any logical, caring and loving god.
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God will eventually destroy the Earth, or at least anything on it, as part of operating the Universe (when the Sun itself "dies"); but if it holds any life by then it's extremely unlikely to include humans as we know ourselves.