Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Trickle down economics are simply anti-capitalism. It's socialism for the rich.
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But I guess this is what the brain concludes, when you already adopted the idea that "Adam Smith" is "the father of capitalism" and therefore defines it...
But I'm glad you are reading. That's a good thing. Keep i t up. 👍
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Yes. We can agree on that. But it does have a specific meaning.
MethDozer · M
@Ferise1 mah, hes not.
I agree with some of your analysis but youre kind kf flawed saying trickle down is anti-capitalist. Same that it is socialism for the rich. Its just the natural progression of capitalism. Same with bailouts for big buisness or banks being called socialism for the rich. It sorta feels that way, but it isn't, it's capitalism plain and simple. Its the economy being dominated and protecting the capital owning class insteadnof society and the worker.
I agree with some of your analysis but youre kind kf flawed saying trickle down is anti-capitalist. Same that it is socialism for the rich. Its just the natural progression of capitalism. Same with bailouts for big buisness or banks being called socialism for the rich. It sorta feels that way, but it isn't, it's capitalism plain and simple. Its the economy being dominated and protecting the capital owning class insteadnof society and the worker.
MethDozer · M
He also had nothing good to say about landlords and repeatedly said they should pay a special tax since they dont produce anything or contribute anything. His idea was to tax them into nonexistence.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MethDozer Don't forget his awareness, that capitalism creates inequality. Because of inequality, those at the bottom become angry at those on the top. And thus, the top needs the state to protect their wealth from the impoverished.
... all that stuff that forgotten when neoliberalism reinvented liberal thinkers, by picking and choosing the stuff they liked and strategically forgetting the warnings and criticism that these thinkers included in their own work.
Among nations of hunters, as there is scarce any property, or at least none that exceeds the value of two or three days labour; so there is seldom any established magistrate, or any regular administration of justice. Men who have no property, can injure one another only in their persons or reputations. But when one man kills, wounds, beats, or defames another, though he to whom the injury is done suffers, he who does it receives no benefit. It is otherwise with the injuries to property. The benefit of the person who does the injury is often equal to the loss of him who suffers it. Envy, malice, or resentment, are the only passions which can prompt one man to injure another in his person or reputation. But the greater part of men are not very frequently under the influence of those passions; and the very worst men are so only occasionally. As their gratification, too, how agreeable soever it may be to certain characters, is not attended with any real or permanent advantage, it is, in the greater part of men, commonly restrained by prudential considerations. Men may live together in society with some tolerable degree of security, though there is no civil magistrate to protect them from the injustice of those passions. But avarice and ambition in the rich, in the poor the hatred of labour and the love of present ease and enjoyment, are the passions which prompt to invade property; passions much more steady in their operation, and much more universal in their influence. Wherever there is a great property, there is great inequality. For one very rich man, there must be at least five hundred poor, and the affluence of the few supposes the indigence of the many. The affluence of the rich excites the indignation of the poor, who are often both driven by want, and prompted by envy to invade his possessions. It is only under the shelter of the civil magistrate, that the owner of that valuable property, which is acquired by the labour of many years, or perhaps of many successive generations, can sleep a single night in security. He is at all times surrounded by unknown enemies, whom, though he never provoked, he can never appease, and from whose injustice he can be protected only by the powerful arm of the civil magistrate, continually held up to chastise it. The acquisition of valuable and extensive property, therefore, necessarily requires the establishment of civil government. Where there is no property, or at least none that exceeds the value of two or three days labour, civil government is not so necessary.
- Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations - PART II. Of the Expense of Justice
- Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations - PART II. Of the Expense of Justice
... all that stuff that forgotten when neoliberalism reinvented liberal thinkers, by picking and choosing the stuff they liked and strategically forgetting the warnings and criticism that these thinkers included in their own work.






