Hasan humiliates Andrew Tate in hilarious debate

I'm just happy I found a channel that wasn't trying to brown nose their way up Tate's ass. Andrew Tate is a joke, he went to Europe after Britain tried to get him on 11 sexual assault charges and said on a since deleted video once in an interview that he moved to Europe to avoid rape charges because the authorities won't check over there. Something in Romania. He's a piece of crap but he's a piece of crap that people just love. They say that Tate is the way men "should" be (apparently most people view "alleged" rapists as "real men.") I'm not saying the charges are true but the guy's sketchy and has thousands of followers that admire him so much there's no one to keep him in check.

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

I haven't watched the vid yet but I know who he is because I'm ok Tiktok.

I agree with you and he's also a scam artist.

The entire operation is about getting people to sign up to Hustler's University and pay money thinking that they can be a bit more like Andrew Tate. Or be a bit like who Andrew Tate pretends to be because at least some of his persona is an act.

The Tate persona is the male power fantasy (or an adolescent's imagination of that) and it represents a clever marketing strategy. Fantasies sell better than actual products and an insecure young man with no money or direction wants to be that person. Which is tragic on multiple levels.

Yes his followers are reactionary idiots but they are also victims.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@Burnley123 Even more tragic is that they'll end up trying to be that person and then when they find out it doesn't work like that, they'll become incels because they don't understand, they'll think it's everyone else's fault. Then we'll see the on the news when they lash out at people.

I've been arguing with an idiot on youtube about Tate's rape comments towards women, the idiot was sticking up for what Tate said, trying to make it look less sinister than what it is. Tate said that he's against rape but there's some situations where the woman puts herself in that situation to be assaulted.

And the guy just totally went off the rails at me. His excuse was that if you go walking a poor community with money then you should expect to get robbed. I said that tons of people live in poorer areas so what does that make them if they get robbed? It has nothing to do with anything at all, the point was about women and assault, the rapist is always to blame.

And he kept calling me stupid and this or that.

It was even more scary that there was a few people sticking up for this person as I was debating him.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SatanBurger I don't normally like using the term toxic masculinity but it certainly applies to this.

They probably are incels already. Tate's mysoginy is part of the act. It's what I meant by him playing the embodiment of the male power fantasy. It's about the cars, the money and the looks. Also about 'revenge'.

It's a sad indication of society that this works because these young men really wanna be like Andrew Tate.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@Burnley123 Toxic masculinity fits, I rarely use that word but there's specific uses for it because it's partly true, there's pervasive underlying attitudes about women that people have that is indeed toxic and of the masculine variety like oh say take rape culture in some countries.

I'm not against naturally dominate people, I'm only against it if it comes out as "toxic" insecurity.