Why does liberalism breed degeneracy. Conservatism doesn't mean Christian either.

@BohoBabe Actually it burdens society. The Freedom we know is a human construct of civilize people trying to give power to their pleasures. Nature has freedom and it also dangerous. When degeneracy breeds obstacles for a society society collapses

@takedredpill But that's not how you're defining "degeneracy." Girls not choosing to cover themselves isn't an obstacle for society.

@BohoBabe Ever since girls started showing more skin, society has gone down.

@takedredpill How so? The countries with the highest living standards are also the most progressive when it comes to sexuality.
By your logic, the best countries would be places like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

@BohoBabe The countries with the highest standards have been pillaging the Global South.

@takedredpill That started way before sex positivity. Plus, if we want to only look at the Global North, the countries that are more feminist still have the higher living standards. The point is, there's no evidence that sex positivity has been a bad thing for society.

@BohoBabe actually those countries are in decline. The more prosperous and educated a country it leads to degeneracy. The West is in decline, I'm a 90's liberal or social-democrat.

@takedredpill All countries are in decline now because we're in Late Stage Capitalism. Liberalism is bad because it's a form of Capitalism, not because it allows for freedom.

The West is in decline because Capitalism allowed too much wealth to pool at the top, which in turn creates poverty, which is why the West is shifting to the Right. If you think the real cause is sexual degeneracy, you'd have to explain why this is happening in all countries, including the theocratic ones, plus why the best countries have always been the most progressive. There's just no evidence that things like porn destroy society.

@BohoBabe because all countries are developing now that's why you see degeneracy, which means will live in dystopia, or people will revert to the old ways. I believe Christ is coming back. Because I seen things not see by human eyes.

@takedredpill But what you're calling "degeneracy" has been mainstream in the West since at least the fifties. How come it's only now that the West is falling? How come all of the non-degenerate countries are also falling?

@BohoBabe Actually there's a lot of Building in Africa by the Chinese. Degeneracy began like in 1920s with he invention of the swimsuit. They said it didn't corrupt kids but kids do get corrupt by looking at bikini girls.

@takedredpill Dude, that's like saying the lightbulb corrupts kids. Thing X was invented, then a hundred years later, stuff started getting bad.

If you're going to make an argument that something is bad, you have to present direct evidence. You'd have to explain how swimsuits directly harmed kids, or at least present a correlation between the commonality of swimsuits and corruption. Though even that requires a level of explanation to how it's causation, not correlation.