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yrger · 80-89, M
@DocSavage
You say:
According to you, Catholics believe in a different god than the one you’ve been posting about. Don’t you think you should make that clear before you engage them ?
I tell you:
Catholics make a distinction between the God of nature and the God of supernature.
According to Catholic doctrine, to know the existence of the God of nature, reason and intelligence are sufficient, but to know the existence of the God of supernature, man needs revelation which is composed of two parts: (1) The Bible and (2) Tradition.
You see, Doc, as an ex-fundamentalist biblical Christian you know as with all Protestants, only the God of supernature. That is why I call you all who were Christians before, biblical atheists, because you now deny the God of supernature Who reveals Himself in the Bible.
Now, I am always trying to inform you that it is time you use reason and intelligence to know the God of nature.
With Catholics, they are very articulate that the God of nature and the God of supernature are identical, it is just that with the God of nature man's reason and intelligence are enough to come to His existence, but with God as the God of supernature, man needs revelation, which is as I said already composed of two parts: (1) The Bible and (2) Tradition.
As you have the faculties of reason and intelligence, what do you say, doesn't the regular order of nature implicate the existence of God as the creator and operator of nature?
DocSavage · M
What about God as mankind's reason and intelligence can and does know to exist: since you two though biblical atheists, still you continue to have the faculties of reason and intelligence, so what do you say about the regular order of nature, doesn't it implicate the existence of God as the creator and operator of nature? -Yrger
According to you, Catholics believe in a different god than the one you’ve been posting about. Don’t you think you should make that clear before you engage them ? You have a habit of changing the subject when you’re confronted. Maybe you should try being honest and straightforward with people.
You say:
According to you, Catholics believe in a different god than the one you’ve been posting about. Don’t you think you should make that clear before you engage them ?
I tell you:
Catholics make a distinction between the God of nature and the God of supernature.
According to Catholic doctrine, to know the existence of the God of nature, reason and intelligence are sufficient, but to know the existence of the God of supernature, man needs revelation which is composed of two parts: (1) The Bible and (2) Tradition.
You see, Doc, as an ex-fundamentalist biblical Christian you know as with all Protestants, only the God of supernature. That is why I call you all who were Christians before, biblical atheists, because you now deny the God of supernature Who reveals Himself in the Bible.
Now, I am always trying to inform you that it is time you use reason and intelligence to know the God of nature.
With Catholics, they are very articulate that the God of nature and the God of supernature are identical, it is just that with the God of nature man's reason and intelligence are enough to come to His existence, but with God as the God of supernature, man needs revelation, which is as I said already composed of two parts: (1) The Bible and (2) Tradition.
As you have the faculties of reason and intelligence, what do you say, doesn't the regular order of nature implicate the existence of God as the creator and operator of nature?
DocSavage · M
What about God as mankind's reason and intelligence can and does know to exist: since you two though biblical atheists, still you continue to have the faculties of reason and intelligence, so what do you say about the regular order of nature, doesn't it implicate the existence of God as the creator and operator of nature? -Yrger
According to you, Catholics believe in a different god than the one you’ve been posting about. Don’t you think you should make that clear before you engage them ? You have a habit of changing the subject when you’re confronted. Maybe you should try being honest and straightforward with people.
DocSavage · M
[@yrgr/microbrain.
Last I heard, Catholics believe in the trinity. You know Father, son, and the Holy Ghost. Three in one go.
None of them , as far as I know have ever been identified in any context as the one you’ve described. Sure, they have Yahweh as creator of the universe, but he’s a supernatural god. So, where exactly are you getting this from ?
It’s not from Buddha, that’s for sure. I scored that one.
Last I heard, Catholics believe in the trinity. You know Father, son, and the Holy Ghost. Three in one go.
None of them , as far as I know have ever been identified in any context as the one you’ve described. Sure, they have Yahweh as creator of the universe, but he’s a supernatural god. So, where exactly are you getting this from ?
It’s not from Buddha, that’s for sure. I scored that one.