The miracle of God creating the first chicken with eggs inside it

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

From my own prolonged thinking, I concluded that God miraculously created the first chicken with eggs already inside it.

What about you atheists, which came first, the chicken or the egg?

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LeopoldBloom · M

Egg cells go back much further than chickens, as fish laid eggs long before chickens evolved. If you’re asking about chicken eggs specifically, it depends which animal you define as the first chicken, which would be arbitrary as the evolutionary change from the precursor to “chicken” was gradual.

However, the theory of evolution is not incompatible with religion, as Catholics, Muslims, Jews, and others see no contradiction between belief in God and the theory of evolution as an explanation of observed reality.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@LeopoldBloom I'm told that the catholic church now accepts ‘some aspects’ of the theory of evolution… something they’re trying to call ‘theistic evolution’, which claims ‘special creation’ for humans [i]i.e.[/i] ‘adam and eve’.

Just a convoluted way of saying "god did it", and an admission that their position has become untenable.

It's the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection... a complete, coherent, and consistent, explanation of the evidence.

It [i]isn't[/i] the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection Except For those Bits That Cause Us Problems.

Nobody gets to cherry-pick those parts of it that they find digestible, while rejecting those parts which cause them dismay and discomfort.

JimboSaturn · 51-55, M

@newjaninev2 I was brought up a devout catholic and we believed in big bang and evolution. Most christians do . ONly these types still take it literally.

DocSavage · M

@newjaninev2
Even young earth creationist were forced to acknowledge evolution. They like to claim, that animals evolved after everyone got off the ark.

LeopoldBloom · M

@newjaninev2 I think the tl;dr explanation is "God created evolution."

Despite their history with Galileo, the Catholic Church has not typically been anti-science.

LeopoldBloom · M

@DocSavage What no one has ever satisfactorily explained is how plants survived. The Bible says Noah didn't take any plants on the ark, and it also says that every living thing not on the ark died. If nothing else, this proves the story is made up. The writer simply forgot to mention plants.

And if anyone says this or that happened, ask them to cite the Bible verse supporting their speculation.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@LeopoldBloom I also wonder how all the oceanic fish survived in all that fresh water (well, actually I don't but...)

LeopoldBloom · M

@newjaninev2 Good point. Raising the sea level high enough to cover every mountain on earth would have seriously diluted the ocean.

The other question is where all that water came from, since there isn't enough water in suspension in the atmosphere to produce that much rain. In Umberto Eco's novel "The Island of the Day Before," a character explains that God obtained the necessary water from the ocean, by going back in time and collecting it the day before when it was no longer needed. This is like those relics that purport to be the skull of John the Baptist when he was ten years old.

DocSavage · M

@LeopoldBloom
According to the flat earthers. Water surrounds the world above the firmament and below. God turned on the sprinklers.