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Northwest · M
Amazing, but not one word you said here is true.
Hamas and the PLO are not allied, they are more like enemies.
The PLO's involvement in the Lebanese war, was 40 years ago, and I say involvement, because they did not create the problem. That was a civil war, caused primarily by one group of Lebanon monopolizing power, and resources.
I'm sure some Palestinians support radical Islamic terrorism, but most live under crushing and apartheid like conditions.
Hamas and the PLO are not allied, they are more like enemies.
The PLO's involvement in the Lebanese war, was 40 years ago, and I say involvement, because they did not create the problem. That was a civil war, caused primarily by one group of Lebanon monopolizing power, and resources.
I'm sure some Palestinians support radical Islamic terrorism, but most live under crushing and apartheid like conditions.
Northwest · M
@SoLeRiMix [quote]PLO did instigate it. I have studied about it and then made this deduction.[/quote]
Not really. The supposed flashpoint for Lebanon's war, was when Phalangists (Lebanese Christian party, organized like Hitler's Brown Shirts, after the leader attended the Berlin Olympics), ambushed a bus full of Palestinian civilians, returning to their camp and killed all thirty passengers.
However, this was just the flashpoint. The PLO jumped in fighting alongside Lebanon's National Movement, an umbrella group constituting the Communists, Shiites, Sunnis, Druze and SSP (loosely based on Argentina's fascists and started by a Lebanese-Argentinian who believed the people of the Levant are racially pure). Yes, the PLO fought alongside, especially when the parties on the other side, has the slogan: kill a Palestinian today.
That, however, was 40 years ago and I am not defending Arafat, I's just saying that this was a Lebanese civil war, and the PLO was used by one of the parties.
[quote]Most of Palestinians do support radical Islamic terrorism. 🙂[/quote]
This is your opinion, does not make it a fact. The FACT, is that the West Bank Palestinians are secular, as well as their leadership. Hamas has a higher percentage of those supporting terrorism, but that's not the majority. Hamas is not the majority, but it is the party that's got arms. Hamas was secretly allowed to grow by Israel, during the first Intifada, as a shield against Arafat. It backfired big time. Just like when we armed Islamists in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets.
[quote]No where, I said Hamas and PLO are related![/quote]
You mixed them all together. A Palestinian is a Palestinian, right?
Not really. The supposed flashpoint for Lebanon's war, was when Phalangists (Lebanese Christian party, organized like Hitler's Brown Shirts, after the leader attended the Berlin Olympics), ambushed a bus full of Palestinian civilians, returning to their camp and killed all thirty passengers.
However, this was just the flashpoint. The PLO jumped in fighting alongside Lebanon's National Movement, an umbrella group constituting the Communists, Shiites, Sunnis, Druze and SSP (loosely based on Argentina's fascists and started by a Lebanese-Argentinian who believed the people of the Levant are racially pure). Yes, the PLO fought alongside, especially when the parties on the other side, has the slogan: kill a Palestinian today.
That, however, was 40 years ago and I am not defending Arafat, I's just saying that this was a Lebanese civil war, and the PLO was used by one of the parties.
[quote]Most of Palestinians do support radical Islamic terrorism. 🙂[/quote]
This is your opinion, does not make it a fact. The FACT, is that the West Bank Palestinians are secular, as well as their leadership. Hamas has a higher percentage of those supporting terrorism, but that's not the majority. Hamas is not the majority, but it is the party that's got arms. Hamas was secretly allowed to grow by Israel, during the first Intifada, as a shield against Arafat. It backfired big time. Just like when we armed Islamists in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets.
[quote]No where, I said Hamas and PLO are related![/quote]
You mixed them all together. A Palestinian is a Palestinian, right?
Human1000 · M
@SoLeRiMix
HAMAS VS FATAH
Ideology:
Hamas – Islamist
Fatah – Secular
Strategy towards Israel:
Hamas – Armed resistance
Fatah – Negotiations
Objectives:
Hamas – Does not recognise Israel, but accepts a Palestinian state on 1967 borders
Fatah – Recognises Israel, wants to build a state on 1967 borders
But if you don’t want to accept facts that is your opinion.
HAMAS VS FATAH
Ideology:
Hamas – Islamist
Fatah – Secular
Strategy towards Israel:
Hamas – Armed resistance
Fatah – Negotiations
Objectives:
Hamas – Does not recognise Israel, but accepts a Palestinian state on 1967 borders
Fatah – Recognises Israel, wants to build a state on 1967 borders
But if you don’t want to accept facts that is your opinion.
SoLeRiMix · 31-35, M
@Human1000 [quote]HAMAS VS FATAH
Ideology:
Hamas – Islamist
Fatah – Secular
Strategy towards Israel:
Hamas – Armed resistance
Fatah – Negotiations
Objectives:
Hamas – Does not recognise Israel, but accepts a Palestinian state on 1967 borders
Fatah – Recognises Israel, wants to build a state on 1967 borders[/quote]
Lots ignored in this research! 🙂
Ideology:
Hamas – Islamist
Fatah – Secular
Strategy towards Israel:
Hamas – Armed resistance
Fatah – Negotiations
Objectives:
Hamas – Does not recognise Israel, but accepts a Palestinian state on 1967 borders
Fatah – Recognises Israel, wants to build a state on 1967 borders[/quote]
Lots ignored in this research! 🙂