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MarineBob · 56-60, M
@SimplyTracie an aircraft carrier there's traditions in the Navy
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@SimplyTracie see you learned something new today
xmedleft · 51-55, M
Often these shipboard fires are set by crew who either don't want to deploy or who are protesting operational conditions. It happens more than you'd think, but they usually put them out fast enough that the Navy can cover up the deeeeep moral problems that lead to them.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@xmedleft Stupid people do stupid things. 🤷🏼♀️
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@xmedleft That seems... far fetched tbh.
xmedleft · 51-55, M
@QuixoticSoul 19 April 1989, the Number Two 16-inch gun turret of the United States Navy battleship USS Iowa (BB-61) exploded. The explosion in the center gun room killed 47 of the turret's crewmen and severely damaged the gun turret itself. A suicidal sailor either set disruptive device between the powder packet or overrammed the packets during loading for a demonstration firing.
I live in the shadow of the world's largest Navy base and have had numerous friends on ships of every scale from supercarriers to frigates and tenders. It is also home to 4 of the same class ships as the BHM. To a man every sailor I've known, and we have thousands, talks about the minor fires and equipment sabotages that happen right before and immediately into deployments. They set trashcans on fire, they open officers desks and light the paperwork, they break the locks on the screw driveshafts and throw bits of chain into the works. They cut faults into the insulation that covers heated pipes so they'll blow ... This may be a bit more common at Norfolk based ships than elsewhere because we tend to get the young 'uns. But the saying I hear are...
1) The navy you join/are promised is never the Navy you serve in
2) It's not a "team" it's a bunch of CUNTS (acronym: Civilians Under Naval Training ie, it's every man for himself.)
3) If you look at Navy treatment of the TR's COVID outbreak the Navy is slow to support the personnel, leading to a sense that they are just left as sitting ducks out there once the ship is in a potential theater of ops. So they'd rather not go.
4) a ship of the same class as BHR was set to leave Norfolk a year ago for a 9 month... She's still sitting there, because [i]someone[/i] installed the boiler pipes backwards. Once placed under full steam that would lead the boiler's plumbing to explode. Someone signed off on that and away she went. 2 days later she was towed back -- NOT under her own power. HASN'T moved except to trade docks with the bigger ships.
5) Our Navy is run by perfectionists, every thing has to be secured and is run-by with double and triple checks. For Something to go wrong Some Person has to be involved, there are faaar more [u]INcidents[/u], than ACcidents -- as they say.. The BHR is a huge ship made of Metal and Concrete -- non-flammable materials -- and it has some of the best fire suppression systems available because of the helicopters and F-35s, but it burned for 4 days. Tell me how unlikely it is that a metal ship would burn for 4 days accidentally. There will be an investigation. They will uncover that either one of our people did it or a foreign agent... if it's one of ours it will be covered up, if it's a foreigner that will only be released if it's a Chinese, North Korean, or a Middle Easterner... anything else would reveal too many openings in the "armor". If it's covered up it will likely be that they just never mention the findings again -- relying on the US's short attention span. Short attention span? Yes, see you already forgot the IOWA incident.
I live in the shadow of the world's largest Navy base and have had numerous friends on ships of every scale from supercarriers to frigates and tenders. It is also home to 4 of the same class ships as the BHM. To a man every sailor I've known, and we have thousands, talks about the minor fires and equipment sabotages that happen right before and immediately into deployments. They set trashcans on fire, they open officers desks and light the paperwork, they break the locks on the screw driveshafts and throw bits of chain into the works. They cut faults into the insulation that covers heated pipes so they'll blow ... This may be a bit more common at Norfolk based ships than elsewhere because we tend to get the young 'uns. But the saying I hear are...
1) The navy you join/are promised is never the Navy you serve in
2) It's not a "team" it's a bunch of CUNTS (acronym: Civilians Under Naval Training ie, it's every man for himself.)
3) If you look at Navy treatment of the TR's COVID outbreak the Navy is slow to support the personnel, leading to a sense that they are just left as sitting ducks out there once the ship is in a potential theater of ops. So they'd rather not go.
4) a ship of the same class as BHR was set to leave Norfolk a year ago for a 9 month... She's still sitting there, because [i]someone[/i] installed the boiler pipes backwards. Once placed under full steam that would lead the boiler's plumbing to explode. Someone signed off on that and away she went. 2 days later she was towed back -- NOT under her own power. HASN'T moved except to trade docks with the bigger ships.
5) Our Navy is run by perfectionists, every thing has to be secured and is run-by with double and triple checks. For Something to go wrong Some Person has to be involved, there are faaar more [u]INcidents[/u], than ACcidents -- as they say.. The BHR is a huge ship made of Metal and Concrete -- non-flammable materials -- and it has some of the best fire suppression systems available because of the helicopters and F-35s, but it burned for 4 days. Tell me how unlikely it is that a metal ship would burn for 4 days accidentally. There will be an investigation. They will uncover that either one of our people did it or a foreign agent... if it's one of ours it will be covered up, if it's a foreigner that will only be released if it's a Chinese, North Korean, or a Middle Easterner... anything else would reveal too many openings in the "armor". If it's covered up it will likely be that they just never mention the findings again -- relying on the US's short attention span. Short attention span? Yes, see you already forgot the IOWA incident.
marsbar · F
@SimplyTracie Hi sweetie. Hope you’re doing well ☺️
Pfuzylogic · M
I heard this happened in San Diego.
That is the biggest base behind Norfolk.
That is the biggest base behind Norfolk.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Pfuzylogic I’ve seen those boats but more in a festive event.
Pfuzylogic · M
@SimplyTracie
I seen one underway on the east coast while I was on board for my two weeks active duty but it was a fast frigate. They terminated that program in the mid 90s though.
I seen one underway on the east coast while I was on board for my two weeks active duty but it was a fast frigate. They terminated that program in the mid 90s though.
xmedleft · 51-55, M
@Pfuzylogic @SimplyTracie I think you'd more likely see a fireboat from the civilian fire department these days... not sure how long it would take them to clear it to operate in the Navy's security space.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
116 injured 2 in serious condition
CallmeJD · 51-55, M
That is a feeling I feel everyday.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@CallmeJD How come? Are you Navy?
SomeMichGuy · M
ugh yeah very very sad
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
yikes
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@vetguy1991 I know. 😰