Can ukraine win ?

@Milkshake You really think so? Idk what’s really going on but all the right wingers are talking like Ukraine hasn’t got a prayer. Of course they’re looking for any excuse not to spend money on anyone but themselves.

@Theyitis beside technicallities that ukraine cant cede land unless there was a referendum... good luck having a referendum in the donezk area.
so we are talking about a war that lasts for 10+ years here and ukraine would be close to be genocided.. even in that scenario ukraine could take the ultimate step of giving up their souvereinity to poland... and trust me poland would be more then willing to join that conflict aswell as most slavic and baltic countries and it would escalate from that into the nato... boom end of the world.

its that... there is to many forces sworn to let the world end before they let russia get away with this.

@Milkshake i think the world is seeing zalinski is a fraud but i dunno

@Whyme your propaganda doesnt matter... russia has century old enemies that gladly let the world burn to put russia where it belongs

@Milkshake my propaganda lol zalinski is nothin but lies putin prob is as well but he aint on tv pretending to be jesus

@Milkshake if they were gonna save ukraine they are a little late take a look its mostly rubble

@Whyme zalinski does whatever is best for the country in his situation and he is doing a very impressive job at that... even if that means kissing asses.
the thing is there are several countries itching to join the conflict and they are only being hold back by the usa right now. the moment usa drops their support for ukraine the situation escalates and you have bombs on muscow

@Whyme its not about saving ukraine.. its about revenge on russia

@Milkshake you dont think putin has supporters in the same situation ? You think its just that easy do ya china wont fire back your way ? And zalinski wants to save zalinsky nobody else he needs ukraine to save his ass not the other way

@Whyme it doesnt matter... they not taking this insult of russia if you want to safe russia as a country they have to dismantle from the inside... or they will be a pile of dust and the rest of the world with it.
russia has been the evil for centuries... and none of the neighbors forgot that

@Milkshake who over there is better or would be if they had the power ?

@Whyme well poland would be the historical answer... they been the big player for centuries until they got ganged upon....

@Milkshake but would they be better i dont know im asking ?

@Whyme cant get worse then russia

@Milkshake not what i asked and that im sure depends who you ask