If someone calls Native American spirituality superstitious, is the person racist and bigoted or ignorant towards indigenous cultures?

@BohemianBoo To be politically correct is there another word for superstitious?

@Peaceandnamaste Stupid.

@BohemianBoo I was bullied for being Native American by my stepfather and for practicing my culture and spirituality. So that seems offensive to me.

@BohemianBoo How did Non living matter become conscious if matter is not conscious itself? Why I object to materialism because materialism can't fully explain how non living matter can produce consciousness? That's why I'm philosophically subscribed and opened to Idealism

@Peaceandnamaste I don't know. But it would be stupid to just make up answers about gods in order to explain it.

@BohemianBoo I believe in the energy of the universe and that all things are connected by it. I don't believe in individual personal gods, I believe in only the forces of nature and the universe. Everything is energy and energy cannot be created or destroyed but only transformed from one form to another.

@Peaceandnamaste Yeah, that's all science. But when it comes to stuff like living things have a spirit, that's superstition.

@BohemianBoo Did you know that Native Americans accepted those who are gay and bisexual and are gender diverse and they have a term for it. Two-spirited.

Most Native Americans lean on the left side than the right side. Trump is a misogynistic failure and he's going to prison.


Conservatives tend to attack Native American spirituality and claim men are superior to women. While Native Americans saw women equal to men and were the first feminists. Don't forget that Natives were forced converted to Christianity by colonialists from their cultures and traditions. They were forced into boarding schools and lost most of their language, culture, arts, spirituality, traditions and customs.
And they were forced to worship a patriarchal male God, some were converted to Christianity and some still revere mother earth and saw all things connected and equal.
I use the word spiritual because there's a difference between being religious and being spiritual, "spiritual" is being connected with the universe and seeing yourself a part of the whole.

Christianity and atheism are both patriarchal white cisgender male dominated worldviews.



Christian imperialism, secular imperialism, and patriarchy should be abolished.

I rather term myself as a nontheist than an atheist.

And I rather term myself as spiritual than religious.

Most Native tribes were egaliterian and matriarchal.

In matriarchal societies women were viewed as a sacred and not inferior to women and those societies revered the Earth and Moon as a goddess and embraced the feminine in nature. In egaliterian societies they revered both the Sun and the Earth as a god and goddess. The feminine and the masculine aspects in nature were both revered.


Ancient European societies were mostly patriarchal even their pagan societies were patriarchal too. The deities they mostly revered were masculine, mainly zeus, thor, hades, feminine deites were portrayed as less than.

@Peaceandnamaste [quote]Did you know that Native Americans accepted those who are gay and bisexual and are gender diverse and they have a term for it. Two-spirited.[/quote]

Every religion has good ideas and bad ideas. But superstition in general is bad, because it conditions people to not value truth.

@BohemianBoo isn't truth subjective, there's no black or white objective truth. The concept of objective truth is very conservative.

@Peaceandnamaste Absolutely not. The idea that truth is subjective is why America is moving towards Fascism now. Conservatives have created an alternative universe where all their endless lies are just as valid as the truth. They know that Trump is a pathological liar but they don't care because truth doesn't matter to them. They know that he lost the election, but they don't care, they'll just accept the Big Lie and live as if it's true. This is the result of a society that accepts religion. We conditioned people to believe that it's ok to make their own truth.

@BohemianBoo The religion that makes the biggest problems is mainly patriarchal male dominated mainstream religions like the Abrahamic religions.

@Peaceandnamaste Yes, but all religions require people to not value truth. You just displayed that here, saying that truth is subjective.

@BohemianBoo Christians believe that truth and morality is objective, so that's a Christian and a republican redneck concept not an alternative spiritual or philosophical concept.

@BohemianBoo Conservative superstitions post more threats than liberal superstitions. Fascism is common in conservative and republican societies but nonexistent in Liberal and democratic societies.

Liberal superstitions are more benign and harmless than conservative superstitions

@Peaceandnamaste Well of course not everyone who embraces one form of anti-truth is going to embrace every anti-truth philosophy. Not everyone who believes in tarot cards also believes black cats are bad luck. The point is that a person who embraces one anti-truth philosophy is more likely to embrace more.
And this is why religious people are more likely to be conservative.

[quote]Christians believe that truth and morality is objective, so that's a Christian and a republican redneck concept not an alternative spiritual or philosophical concept.[/quote]

But there's no logical evidence-based reasons to believe in Christianity. People who tell themselves that Christianity is real are ignoring logic and evidence in order to believe what they want. It's a mindset that doesn't value truth. This is the mindset that opens the door for other lies, including political ones like the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.

@BohemianBoo politically I'm democrat and I only lean towards the left side. My values including philosophy and spirituality all lean liberal and progressive and it includes environmentalism which includes revering nature and taking care of the environment, and voting laws for clean air, anti littering, clean water and healthy food, tree planting and against child labor, from women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, rights for the poor, pro choice, animal rights, anti discrimination, social justice, spiritual freedom, immigration rights, voting rights, equal opportunity, equality for all, anti hate, I believe the rich should be taxed more, public schools should be free, churches should be taxed, gender equality etc.

And most conspiracy theorists, anti vaxxers and flat earthers are mainly right wingers. "Tinfoil hat" and "lizard people" Conspiracy theories are mostly found in the far right leaning side of the political spectrum.


Far right groups like Qanon, Taliban and the KKK are mainly from Christianity and Islam which are from Abrahamic based religions.


Big organized religions like Christianity and Catholicism has the most institutional power in the world which makes it more dangerous than any small philosophical spiritual wisdom systems from a matriarchal or egalitarian tribal society on a faraway island or from a peaceful or a pacifistic hippie commune.


Religious and materialistic Imperialism should be abolished.

@BohemianBoo Its mainly the redneck hick maga loving trumplicans and the conservative gun loving Christians that are making the laws that oppress women, taking voting rights from black people, don't care about the environment and wants child labor back, wants to kick immigrants out, and they also want to ban and burn books, and ban Indigenous groups from practicing their own culture, apparently the environment isn't sacred to conservatives/republicans they see it as disposable and dead matter that will be destroyed by a rapture. They call themselves pro-life when they're actually pro-death, they only value their guns more than the health of the environment and the safety of actual born children. They only care more about the safety of a small unborn fetus than the lives killed by public shootings.

Environmental racism is a real thing and it's affecting black communities, women, native American communities and other impoverished marginalized communities in a negative rate through climate change and increasing natural disasters. Plus there's Social inequalities.

Forms of racism: You have plain bigotry and hate and the use of racial slurs, and of course there's prejudice examples would be the KKK, Neo Nazis and MAGA, and plus the institutional power that comes with it. Segregation and Jim crow is an example of this.

The KKK is a racist Protestant terrorist group that preaches hate against LGBTQ+ people, Black people, women, Catholics, Muslims, atheists, Jews, Hispanics including Native Americans, and they also hate people with disabilities and also hate anyone who is not wealthy or white, anglo Saxon or Protestant.

Racism exists in the structures, institutions and systems of America.

There's different levels of power in systemic racism.

We have environmental racism- Lack of clean water, clean air, inadequate infrastructure, and inadequate plumbing in marginalized communities and neighborhoods. And there's other examples of environmental injustices including the flint water crisis, Arsenic and lead contamination in a well at an Indian reservation and the infamous cancer alley in Louisiana, and sewage problems from bad plumbing plagued a small deep southern town in uniontown Al.

Religious racism- believes segregation and slavery is a "god given right" and that slaves should obey their masters.


Scientific racism- the belief that non white people especially black people and Native Americans are biologically and genetically inferior to anglo saxon white people despite the fact that science today has proven that all humans are 99.9% genetically similar and the small 0.1-0.2% gives us the different phenotypes and traits. We live in a cisgender white male dominated society so Sexism and racism is still today embedded in stereotypes and in society. These caused the medical and health disparities in ethnic minorities in America.

@BohemianBoo I'm politically and philosophically Liberal so what do you have against liberals? Now you're criticizing us liberals now.

@BohemianBoo The conservatives need to be owned, own the conservatives.

@Peaceandnamaste Are you and Markpaul related?