Cyclist · 46-50, M
And if any other person in any other book says something, why is it any more or less important than Paul? It’s difficult to pick a side when both sides are fiction.
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@Cyclist That's man's definition. Prophecies do not need to conform to the scientific principle of falsifiability. God's Word is above human understanding and far more superior. We meet HIS standards, not the other way around. Man's ways, and thinking, will never compare to God's wisdom. God sets the standard, not man. He is the Divine Authority.
Divine communication operates on a level that transcends empirical verification or falsification as defined by science. The reliability of prophecy stems from the divine origin and the authority attributed to God. It is a matter of faith and trust in the source of the message, rather than a process of scientific testing. Man will never be smarter than God.
In the Bible, prophecy is tested primarily by its fulfillment and alignment with God's existing word. If a prophecy doesn't come to pass or contradicts established scripture, it is false. Additionally, the character of the prophet and the message itself are scrutinized...looking for evidence of love, encouragement, and truth. As I mentioned in my previous reply, prophecies from the Bible that have come to pass, have been fulfilled. Careful Bible study of prophecy and stated fulfillment, will confirm that. A true Prophets prophecy, always comes to 100% fulfillment. Such as Isaiah's, as he prophesied some 500 years before, of Jesus' suffering and death on the cross, as described in the New Testament in great detail.
Divine communication operates on a level that transcends empirical verification or falsification as defined by science. The reliability of prophecy stems from the divine origin and the authority attributed to God. It is a matter of faith and trust in the source of the message, rather than a process of scientific testing. Man will never be smarter than God.
In the Bible, prophecy is tested primarily by its fulfillment and alignment with God's existing word. If a prophecy doesn't come to pass or contradicts established scripture, it is false. Additionally, the character of the prophet and the message itself are scrutinized...looking for evidence of love, encouragement, and truth. As I mentioned in my previous reply, prophecies from the Bible that have come to pass, have been fulfilled. Careful Bible study of prophecy and stated fulfillment, will confirm that. A true Prophets prophecy, always comes to 100% fulfillment. Such as Isaiah's, as he prophesied some 500 years before, of Jesus' suffering and death on the cross, as described in the New Testament in great detail.
Cyclist · 46-50, M
@LadyGrace nope. You are wrong and if they do not conform to falsifiability then those fulfillments are false. You are just defending their falsehood.
Here is the point. Faith is legitimate. You are entitled to your faith, as is everyone else. You are NOT entitled to faulty logic or to wrong facts. Faith cannot justify saying 2+2=5. That is never the case, even for a supernatural supreme being. Once you start using your faith to justify a distorted view of reality and logical fallacies, you are just plain wrong. I really expected more from you. You were so fervent that 100% of the prophecies came true, that I expected just a few of them would pass the test of logic. If you need to distort basic tests of reality to make your views come true, then you are on very shaky ground. That is true both cognitively and in your aberrant sense of faith. The sad thing is that faith could be strong and legitimate if it is left in its proper domain. You could have done that. But instead you chose to invalidate your faith in an attempt to use it to distort logic and reality.
I will leave it at that. I’ve said enough to make the point.
Here is the point. Faith is legitimate. You are entitled to your faith, as is everyone else. You are NOT entitled to faulty logic or to wrong facts. Faith cannot justify saying 2+2=5. That is never the case, even for a supernatural supreme being. Once you start using your faith to justify a distorted view of reality and logical fallacies, you are just plain wrong. I really expected more from you. You were so fervent that 100% of the prophecies came true, that I expected just a few of them would pass the test of logic. If you need to distort basic tests of reality to make your views come true, then you are on very shaky ground. That is true both cognitively and in your aberrant sense of faith. The sad thing is that faith could be strong and legitimate if it is left in its proper domain. You could have done that. But instead you chose to invalidate your faith in an attempt to use it to distort logic and reality.
I will leave it at that. I’ve said enough to make the point.
@Cyclist Think and assume as you like. The Word of God is never wrong nor falsified, and that is my only source, the truths of God's Word. The "faulty logic and wrong facts" you accuse me of, come strictly from God's own Word. So in essence, you're calling God a liar, when I quote His Word. You're trying to use man-made logic for what God has proclaimed truth in His Word. Won't work.
The phrase "There is a way that seems right to a man" originates from the Book of Proverbs in the Bible and suggests that actions or paths that appear correct or beneficial to an individual, can ultimately lead to negative consequences or destruction. It highlights the deceptive nature of human judgment, especially when unguided by God's wisdom and divine principles.
God's Word says that true spiritual understanding comes through the Holy Spirit of a born-again believer, not just human intellect or personal desires. The Holy Spirit is essential for discerning spiritual truth. Without the Spirit's guidance, a person's interpretations can be skewed by their own biases and flawed understanding.
"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them, because they are discerned only through the Spirit." 1st Corinthians 2:14
The phrase "There is a way that seems right to a man" originates from the Book of Proverbs in the Bible and suggests that actions or paths that appear correct or beneficial to an individual, can ultimately lead to negative consequences or destruction. It highlights the deceptive nature of human judgment, especially when unguided by God's wisdom and divine principles.
God's Word says that true spiritual understanding comes through the Holy Spirit of a born-again believer, not just human intellect or personal desires. The Holy Spirit is essential for discerning spiritual truth. Without the Spirit's guidance, a person's interpretations can be skewed by their own biases and flawed understanding.
"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them, because they are discerned only through the Spirit." 1st Corinthians 2:14
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