You For Or Against Planned Parenthood?
I work there part time, with my half sister who actually perfoms abortions. I love to see the look on women’s faces when they realize their new freedom.
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Wales · M
Childfreedom should be celebrated and encouraged. I get the distinct impression that anti-abortionists think they have superior morals to people who aren't filled with their propaganda. Abortion cannot be compared to slavery and school shootings. These are crimes against fully conscious and sentient beings. First trimester abortion is much safer and less life-changing than childbirth. I listened to one of the anti-abortionists speak on video to pro-choice students while she disrespected and argued and talked down to them. One asked if either of the pro-life speakers was a vegetarian and this obese mother of four declared she only cared about human welfare and would be having a hamburger afterwards. She clearly thinks human beings are a superior species rather than the greatest threat to the planet and the welfare of animals known to history.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Wales I am pro life. I do not support war. I do not support capital punishment. I do not support euthanasia. I do not support abortion. I do not support murder. I believe in the sanctity of human life regardless of age or sex or sins committed. You on the other hand have the morals of an alley cat.
missyann · 56-60
@Wales Human beings are superior. We have dominion over the Earth.. animals are alive, but they don’t have the intellect and well to know what is right and wrong. All they know is survival.. whether anybody likes it or not they were put on this earth to feed us, but we all have a responsibility to protect our earth.
The subject of abortion is so simple a human female conceives a human life at fertility that life‘s DNA composition is established . Everything that person is eyecolor, hair color whether it’s a male or a female. They exact DNA it with Cary throughout its life until death. This is the exact same process that you came to be an everybody who walks this earth came to be.
Abortion intentionally, and deliberately ends in the innocent life. If it was her body, her choice it would be her body that she would be aborting but it is someone else’s body that she is intentionally and deliberately killing. Every excuse pro abortion uses can be honestly refuted.
It is not a potential human being. It is a human being with potential.
The subject of abortion is so simple a human female conceives a human life at fertility that life‘s DNA composition is established . Everything that person is eyecolor, hair color whether it’s a male or a female. They exact DNA it with Cary throughout its life until death. This is the exact same process that you came to be an everybody who walks this earth came to be.
Abortion intentionally, and deliberately ends in the innocent life. If it was her body, her choice it would be her body that she would be aborting but it is someone else’s body that she is intentionally and deliberately killing. Every excuse pro abortion uses can be honestly refuted.
It is not a potential human being. It is a human being with potential.
Wales · M
@missyann Animals are currently being raised in factories to be slaughtered for meat. They are also being bred by humans for other products such as milk and eggs. None of these products are needed as a plant based diet could feed all the humans in the world many times over. It's healthier, better for the environment, and shows a kind regard for non-humans to live vegan. This creates a boycott of the industries that breed animals for profit. Animals have feelings and suffer terribly at the hands of humans and consuming animal products creates a demand for something which was inhumanely produced. The more humans around to live their entire lives without a thought for animals, the more animal suffering and harm to the environment this will cause. With more than eight billion humans on this planet of war, political hatred, and crime, it's beyond the time of thinking that more humans may cause more harm to existing life than any potential good. You are under a delusion if you think the United States government will do a great service to humanity by outlawing abortion. This type of legislation causes harm to women unable to afford transportation to find safe and legal abortion services out of state. Some are driven to suicide by their despair over an unwanted pregnancy. This is not the land of loving homes and unlimited resources for all the fetuses you want to save from abortion. I don't deny this is a tragic situation with millions of unwanted pregnancies. You are repeating many of the same phrases multiple times. Anyone opposed to this legislation you call pro-abortion. This is what I refer to as propaganda. You show disregard for non-human animals every time you consume animal products as do billions of other humans all over the world. Thank you for all your kind efforts and ways you are seeking to do good in the world. I don't intend to fight with you or try to win an argument. Abortion was not invented by Roe vs. Wade and it's never going away with legislation.
missyann · 56-60
@Wales I I hate animal, cruelty and yes, slaughter houses can be cruel. It would be a perfect world if we could go back to family run farms where animals got to graze and fields, and live their lives outside of small pens. But not all methods of slaughtering animals is cruel.. I believe hitting a cow in the head with a sledgehammer is cruel, but shooting an animal between the eyes with a gun is far less cruel than decapitating and ripping a human life apart, limb by limb, while it’s still alive.
Yes, animals feel pain and again I don’t like to see any animal domesticated or farm abused but animals aren’t rational and don’t know the difference between right and wrong. We don’t. Put a snake on trial because it eats a mouse because that is its nature.
Human beings have dominion over the Earth, because we are rational. We know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, and whether people like it or not animals more put on this earth to provide food , their furs and pelts for clothing . No one has the right to tell someone what they should and shouldn’t eat but as a society, we do have the right to vote those into office, who can legislate and pass laws that protect ALL human life
No, a law does not stop all of that particular crime but most people do try to avoid committing the crime. Let’s say before the law, there are 100 abortions a day, and after the law there are 25 abortions.. I would say saving 75 human lives is worth the fight.
If pro life only said, “ don’t kill babies “ and then walked away. I I believe that would be cruel and wrong but we don’t we offer help in EVERY unwanted and unplanned pregnancy. No woman ever hast to feel or be alone.
“ Whoever saves one life, saves the world”. Meaning if a man shows compassion and humanity towards another human being, he demonstrates humanity in the world. There are so many people in this country who live and make it their mission to do nothing but help mother and child.
Yes, animals feel pain and again I don’t like to see any animal domesticated or farm abused but animals aren’t rational and don’t know the difference between right and wrong. We don’t. Put a snake on trial because it eats a mouse because that is its nature.
Human beings have dominion over the Earth, because we are rational. We know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, and whether people like it or not animals more put on this earth to provide food , their furs and pelts for clothing . No one has the right to tell someone what they should and shouldn’t eat but as a society, we do have the right to vote those into office, who can legislate and pass laws that protect ALL human life
No, a law does not stop all of that particular crime but most people do try to avoid committing the crime. Let’s say before the law, there are 100 abortions a day, and after the law there are 25 abortions.. I would say saving 75 human lives is worth the fight.
If pro life only said, “ don’t kill babies “ and then walked away. I I believe that would be cruel and wrong but we don’t we offer help in EVERY unwanted and unplanned pregnancy. No woman ever hast to feel or be alone.
“ Whoever saves one life, saves the world”. Meaning if a man shows compassion and humanity towards another human being, he demonstrates humanity in the world. There are so many people in this country who live and make it their mission to do nothing but help mother and child.
Wales · M
@missyann There has been much interstate travel for abortions since the overturn of Roe v. Wade, but I read that the number of abortions has gone up. No law will keep women from having abortions and many die or are injured from them when they are done underground to escape the authorities. I think it's an absurd and arrogant idea that animals exist as human resources. There is no need in this modern era to kill animals for their meat or their skins or their fur. Breeding animals and confining them in factories is cruel and unnecessary. Living vegan is the humane alternative to consuming animal products as a convenience. You may offer help to some women in a crisis, but the ones in abusive relationships have good reason to want to end their pregnancies and avoid giving birth to another victim of domestic abuse.
missyann · 56-60
@Wales I’m not sure if you realize that abortion facilities are not required to report number of abortions. It is all voluntary.. of course this facilities want to report number of abortions since Roe v. Wade was overturned because it makes it sound like there are more which makes no sense if there are more abortions, it makes it sound like women want them because it’s illegal. Are more women having unplanned pregnancies so they can have abortions ? Of course, they’ve increased in states where it’s still legal, because women are traveling to have abortions. I don’t know for sure, but I would think since they’re illegal in a lot of states that a lot of women, especially low income, can’t afford the travel and the cost of an abortion so I would think the numbers would go down.
Are you suggesting that these underground abortions are being done in
“ back alley “ or are they being done by abortion doctors ? Back alley abortions really didn’t exist before Roe v. Wade. They were done illegally by physicians . in the year before Roe v. Wade more women died from legal abortions, not illegal
Of course, surveys are not accurate they are reported by those doing the surveys pro abortion surveys more who support abortion pro life surveys more who don’t support abortions. The only way to have accurate information is to survey every citizen in the country and we know that doesn’t happen.
I believe by said that no law stop all of the crime, but it does slow that particular crime. Down because no one wants to be arrested for a crime. As far as pregnancy care centers go we help all women we help those in abusive relationships get out and find housing and help them apply for public assistance and everybody knows that that is a disheartening process. We help with the adoption process.. No human life needs to be intentionally and deliberately killed to make a woman’s life better. Not one.
As far as animals go, I said, I believe it is cruel to pin them in small cages until they’re ready to be processed for food. My family are farmers, and at that time the cows were in field they were not in pens and the pigs had big pens. Of course they had to be separated, or they kill each other. The only time sows were Penned was when they had piglets. And chickens had huge pens. to run in. Yes there are confinement farms and I think those are horrible and cruel but you cannot tell someone whether they can eat me or not. Some people even think it’s wrong to eat live plants. And I think that hunting for a sport is wrong safari hunts. Unfortunately it is necessary to hunt deer because human beings have taken their domain. People eat squirrel and their domain has been taken also What I don’t understand is if the population is decreasing why do we need to destroy more land so that native animals have no place to go? Do you think we need to give animals birth control? I support climate change, and I don’t see the purpose for housing infrastructure, but how are we going to stop that? I am certainly a tree hugger. Some people believe that man is meant to eat meat. And we’re not talking about killing animals. We are talking about killing, living human beings, and there is a difference if it was the same animals would be side by side with human beings, making rational decisions
I am not religious, but I believe in God. And no, I don’t know the Bible through and through but I do know it says that man was given dominion over the Earth.. it is fair to say that we have a abused that right given but it doesn’t change the fact that it was given to man
I support probably more liberal issues than I do conservative, but the most important issue to me is pro life and protecting all human beings. And on the subject of guns, most legal gun owners are responsible. What gun legislation would stop the school shootings and other crimes committed with guns? If someone wants to get a gun, they will get it but I have a right to protect my family.. thank God I’ve never had to use that and because I haven’t I have to take a gun safety class every couple years because I forget how do use my guns. But they are safely locked up so that my husband and I can get to them and I will protect my family at all costs legally.. I will never shoot someone in the back he’s running, but if someone is threatening my family, I have a right to protect them
Another thing I do support is it illegal immigration control. I have no problem at all with immigrants following the law and we need to come up with a vetting system that works. Yes, I believe most immigrants wanting to come to this country. Want a better life but it is the ones who want it to bring crime, drugs, and human trafficking who are ruining it for them. And to think that those who want to bring crime don’t use children as their excuse is naïve.
We are talking about intentionally and deliberately ending in the innocent human life. Let’s try to stay on that subject.
Are you suggesting that these underground abortions are being done in
“ back alley “ or are they being done by abortion doctors ? Back alley abortions really didn’t exist before Roe v. Wade. They were done illegally by physicians . in the year before Roe v. Wade more women died from legal abortions, not illegal
Of course, surveys are not accurate they are reported by those doing the surveys pro abortion surveys more who support abortion pro life surveys more who don’t support abortions. The only way to have accurate information is to survey every citizen in the country and we know that doesn’t happen.
I believe by said that no law stop all of the crime, but it does slow that particular crime. Down because no one wants to be arrested for a crime. As far as pregnancy care centers go we help all women we help those in abusive relationships get out and find housing and help them apply for public assistance and everybody knows that that is a disheartening process. We help with the adoption process.. No human life needs to be intentionally and deliberately killed to make a woman’s life better. Not one.
As far as animals go, I said, I believe it is cruel to pin them in small cages until they’re ready to be processed for food. My family are farmers, and at that time the cows were in field they were not in pens and the pigs had big pens. Of course they had to be separated, or they kill each other. The only time sows were Penned was when they had piglets. And chickens had huge pens. to run in. Yes there are confinement farms and I think those are horrible and cruel but you cannot tell someone whether they can eat me or not. Some people even think it’s wrong to eat live plants. And I think that hunting for a sport is wrong safari hunts. Unfortunately it is necessary to hunt deer because human beings have taken their domain. People eat squirrel and their domain has been taken also What I don’t understand is if the population is decreasing why do we need to destroy more land so that native animals have no place to go? Do you think we need to give animals birth control? I support climate change, and I don’t see the purpose for housing infrastructure, but how are we going to stop that? I am certainly a tree hugger. Some people believe that man is meant to eat meat. And we’re not talking about killing animals. We are talking about killing, living human beings, and there is a difference if it was the same animals would be side by side with human beings, making rational decisions
I am not religious, but I believe in God. And no, I don’t know the Bible through and through but I do know it says that man was given dominion over the Earth.. it is fair to say that we have a abused that right given but it doesn’t change the fact that it was given to man
I support probably more liberal issues than I do conservative, but the most important issue to me is pro life and protecting all human beings. And on the subject of guns, most legal gun owners are responsible. What gun legislation would stop the school shootings and other crimes committed with guns? If someone wants to get a gun, they will get it but I have a right to protect my family.. thank God I’ve never had to use that and because I haven’t I have to take a gun safety class every couple years because I forget how do use my guns. But they are safely locked up so that my husband and I can get to them and I will protect my family at all costs legally.. I will never shoot someone in the back he’s running, but if someone is threatening my family, I have a right to protect them
Another thing I do support is it illegal immigration control. I have no problem at all with immigrants following the law and we need to come up with a vetting system that works. Yes, I believe most immigrants wanting to come to this country. Want a better life but it is the ones who want it to bring crime, drugs, and human trafficking who are ruining it for them. And to think that those who want to bring crime don’t use children as their excuse is naïve.
We are talking about intentionally and deliberately ending in the innocent human life. Let’s try to stay on that subject.