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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Honestly I'm a little out of my knowledge area but when I look up Zionism I get nationalism, which is my issue. Zionism was originally anti colonial at a time where there was extreme anti semitism going on. But the modern day usage of the Israeli government moving in on land that was Palestine's and their actions as a whole makes it seem like they want all of it to be theirs and not share their land with other races.
That's kinda what nationalism is though. Regardless of color or race, it doesn't really matter, nationalism is the equivalent to like a two year old going thru the whole "everything is mine" stage but for adults and way more homicidal.
It should be noted that with the protesters were also Jewish groups so it's not a matter of anti semitism. It's way more complicated with a huge diverse number of views.
That's kinda what nationalism is though. Regardless of color or race, it doesn't really matter, nationalism is the equivalent to like a two year old going thru the whole "everything is mine" stage but for adults and way more homicidal.
It should be noted that with the protesters were also Jewish groups so it's not a matter of anti semitism. It's way more complicated with a huge diverse number of views.
HordeCory · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger zionism was never anti-colonial. It was a colonialist movement from its inception. Look up statements from early zionists.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@HordeCory
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/zionism
While there has been a continuous Jewish presence in the land of Israel over the millennia, the yearning to return to Zion, the biblical term for both the land of Israel and Jerusalem, has been a cornerstone of Jewish communal life since the Romans violently colonized the land, sending Jews into exile two thousand years ago. An earlier exile by the Babylonians produced perhaps the most well-known lamentation “By the rivers of Babylon, there we wept as we remembered Zion.” That connection between Jews and the land, and the hope for repatriation, is deeply embedded in Jewish prayer, ritual, literature and culture.
What is known as modern Zionism emerged in the mid-19th century in tandem with the rise of the nation-state and widespread national liberation movements across Europe. In the case of the Jews, it was also in response to a long history of intense anti-Jewish hatred, persecution, and discrimination in countries and societies across the world where Jews lived, including in Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.
What is known as modern Zionism emerged in the mid-19th century in tandem with the rise of the nation-state and widespread national liberation movements across Europe. In the case of the Jews, it was also in response to a long history of intense anti-Jewish hatred, persecution, and discrimination in countries and societies across the world where Jews lived, including in Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/zionism
HordeCory · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger modern zionism is what I am referring to. It can be simultaneously true that Zionism is a response to persecution and a colonialist project. Hurt people hurt people, this perpetuating a cycle of violence. The Palestinians are being punished for something a completely different civilization did thousands of years ago.