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Facts About The Holocaust

1. God created one race. The human race. We all come from one human couple.
2. God created the nation of Israel. Jehovah is the God of the Jews.
3. God selected the people. They were his chosen people.
4. The Bible was written by Jews, and is mostly about the Jewish people. Including the persecution and death of many, by, among others, the Babylonians, Greeks, and themselves.
5. My lord and savior, Jesus Christ, was a Jew. As were all of his early disciples and the apostles.
6. Semitic is a language. The Jews and the Arabs, sworn enemies, both speak that language.

Question? Are you anti-Semitic if you deny or criticize any of this? [1]

Note: The Balfour Declaration was issued in 1917 for the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

1. The word holocaust means whole burnt offering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(sacrifice) The camps weren't death camps, they were forced labor camps. These camps, like the British/American camps in Europe, were places where people were horribly abused, killed, and due to the destruction of the infrastructure towards the end of the war, had no supplies to feed and care for them.

A) People were tattooed. Why tattoo someone you're just going to gas and cremate? People weren't put to death upon arrival, which is why there are photos of emaciated people at the end of the war in these camps. To be in such a state would take months. It should be noted that photos of bulldozers pushing piles of corpses into pits depict soldiers with British uniforms, not German doing the burial.

B) The prisoners were issued ID cards, had their own Jewish currency to spend at the commissary, had their own post office and stamps, swimming pools, soccer team, and theatres where they put on variety shows. Musicals, plays, concerts. Their clothes were taken, hair shaven and showers were given upon arrival to prevent disease and parasites. Like in prisons or the armed forces in the USA.

2. From the late 1940s until the 1990s after the fall of the Soviet Union, a plaque at Auschwitz state: "Four million people suffered and died here at the hands of the Nazi murderers between the years 1940 and 1945" Then it was replaced with "For ever let this place be a cry of despair and a warning to humanity, where the Nazis murdered about one and a half million men, women, and children, mainly Jews from various countries of Europe." Later still, the plaque said: "Auschwitz was the largest Nazi German Concentration camp and death camp in the years 1940-1945, the Nazis deported at least 1,300, 000 Jews, 140,000-150,000, Poles, 23,000 Roma (Gypsies), 15, 000 Soviet Prisoners of war, 25,000 prisoners from other ethnic groups. 1.100,00 of these people died in Auschwitz. Approximately 90% of the victims were Jews, The SS murdered majority of them in gas chambers."

So, at Auschwitz alone the number goes from four million to less than a million. Does that change the 6 million number?

Thousands of publications were published going back to the 1800s proclaiming 6 million Jews would be killed. [2]

1. It isn't possible to have killed even 1 million with the facilities at Auschwitz. They had 52 cremation ovens. It is claimed they had the ability to cremate 4,756 bodies per day. That's 91 per day in each oven. That's 4 people per hour. 15 minutes per body. With today's technology it's only possible to cremate 1 body in 2-2 1/2 hours. Keeping in mind that would only be possible if the equipment ran 24/7 no maintenance or removal of the remains. The ovens had only enough room for 1 body.

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[1] In ignorance I used to think "Holocaust Denial" was racist bigotry. Until I learned the truth. From a Jew. A college student who had questions about the historicity of the Holocaust narrative and who had to go into hiding after serious injuries sustained in a beating by a Jewish organization. This is his documentary on Auschwitz in which he goes there and demonstrates some of the serious problems of that narrative.
https://odysee.com/David-Cole-At-Auschwitz-Remastered:3

[2] Six Million Lies. Publications going back to the 1800s on six million Jews, proven false stories and testimonies, and population statistics.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6OgUHXLKE09Z/
Gloomy · F
[quote]People were tattooed. Why tattoo someone you're just going to gas and cremate?[/quote]

Many prisoners were used for forced labor like in Auschwitz. But the "unfit" - meaning the elderly, the children, and most of the women - were immediately sent to the gas chambers.

[quote]their own post office and stamps, swimming pools, soccer team, and theatres where they put on variety shows. Musicals, plays, concerts.[/quote]

What Holocaust deniers call a "swimming pool" wasn't one and the rest was infrastructure for SS-personnel. Also inmates were forced to play music at SS parties.

[quote]Their clothes were taken, hair shaven and showers were given upon arrival to prevent disease and parasites.[/quote]

Initially for parasite control it turned out to be an effective way to dehumanize people. Also they hoarded clothes, shoes and possessions of the people they killed and imprisoned.

[quote]So, at Auschwitz alone the number goes from four million to less than a million. Does that change the 6 million number?
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The four million was a wrong estimate from the soviets after they freed the camp. It was later corrected though didn't impact the tragic end results of 6 million.

[quote]It isn't possible to have killed even 1 million with the facilities at Auschwitz.[/quote]

Auschwitz, several bodies at a time were put into the ovens. If the victims had been executed shortly after arrival at the camp, they may still have been of more or less normal size. Up to two hours might have been required, to reduce those bodies to skeletal remains which could be ground into powder with relative ease.

Prisoners who had been kept for months or even years, and were at an advanced state of starvation, might have been burned in an hour, possibly even less, because there was so little flesh to be destroyed.

Not all those who died at Auschwitz were burned in the ovens. A large number were cremated in outdoor pyres. In those disposals, rows of bodies were laid across logs, with another row of logs laid over those, more bodies, and so on. The piles could be up to six or eight feet high. They were built upon a grid of railroad rails, laid about one foot apart, over a large pit for the ashes.

After such a pile was built - containing perhaps several hundred bodies - gasoline was thrown onto the mass. Such a pyre would then burn for many hours.

You are a Holocaust denier and all your "arguments" are not only disrespectful towards the people who suffered and were killed but also easy to debunk. I'd advise you to speak to one of the few survivors left or visit Auschwitz yourself.
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@Gloomy [quote]Many prisoners were used for forced labor like in Auschwitz.[/quote]

Agreed.

[quote]But the "unfit" - meaning the elderly, the children, and most of the women - were immediately sent to the gas chambers.[/quote]

No. To suggest that contradicts the evidence. Children, the elderly, and the women have experiences in the camp. There's photographic evidence, and testimony. Why would they delouse and tattoo women, children and the elderly if they were immediately gassed? They wouldn't and there wouldn't be evidence of their experiences in the camp. Not to mention the evidence of there being people so emaciated they could barely stand. They would be unfit. How many months does it take to get in that condition and how long would they not be "unfit."

[quote]What Holocaust deniers [...][/quote]

Excuse me? Define the terms Holocaust and Holocaust denier as well as Holocaust survivor, please. The etymology of the word Holocaust I briefly mentioned, with a Wikipedia link. The Hebrew, Greek, Spanish and English mean sacrifice. What was scarified and by whom? From my understanding a Holocaust denier is anyone who doesn't agree with the official narrative which is more or less Soviet propaganda. Science and historians included. Also my understanding of a Holocaust survivor is anyone (only Jewish) living at that time regardless if they were in Europe or the camps. That seems to be how those terms are applied.

How much money in reparations does a "Holocaust survivor" receive from Germany? Do you have those numbers? It was $200 billion the last I looked, and for some $1000 a month.

[quote]What Holocaust deniers call a "swimming pool" wasn't one and the rest was infrastructure for SS-personnel. [/quote]

Here's an photograph.


Usually described as a "fire brigade reservoir" and described as being exclusively for SS, it has a diving board and starting blocks and there are eyewitness testimonies that prisoners swam there.

The infrastructure at a prison labor camp included such amenities for soldiers? I've seen images and have heard eyewitness testimony that doesn't include SS participation. I've only ever heard of such participation when trying to deny music, sports, theatre etc. In other words, you don't have evidence to support. It seems unlikely that your scenario is anywhere near factual.

[quote]Initially for parasite control it turned out to be an effective way to dehumanize people. Also they hoarded clothes, shoes and possessions of the people they killed and imprisoned.[/quote]

Horded them? Why? I mentioned modern day military and prisons using the same technique, do they horde? Why would they? Why would there ever have been parasite control for people going, as you said, immediately to the gas chamber?

[quote]The four million was a wrong estimate from the soviets after they freed the camp. It was later corrected though didn't impact the tragic end results of 6 million.[/quote]

How do you make a 3 million of 6 million error, half, without impacting the outcome? I mean other than being deluded or lying? Several respected sources give the Jewish population prior to the war as roughly 15 million, which is what it was after the war. How is that?

[quote]Auschwitz, several bodies at a time were put into the ovens. [/quote]


In that oven? How do you think doing that would lessen the time needed to cremate several bodies? Because it wouldn't.

Auschwitz four crematory ovens capacity is given at 400 corpses in 5 minutes. The modern day equivalent capacity is 8 days. Auschwitz for 4, 800 1 hour, the modern day 13 months, Auschwitz 42,048 1 year, the modern equivalent 9,600 years.

[quote] If the victims had been executed shortly after arrival at the camp,[/quote]

Which you've stated above was the case: "immediately sent to the gas chambers."

[quote]they may still have been of more or less normal size. Up to two hours might have been required, to reduce those bodies to skeletal remains which could be ground into powder with relative ease.[/quote]

Ease? Wouldn't it have been far more efficient to just hang or shoot them?

[quote]Prisoners who had been kept for months or even years, and were at an advanced state of starvation, might have been burned in an hour, possibly even less, because there was so little flesh to be destroyed.[/quote]

I see. But that wouldn't have been many since, as you claim, they were "immediately sent to the gas chambers." Wouldn't have been any eyewitnesses to attest to that, though, would there. No experiences in the camp. No plays for the SS to watch. Dead men don't talk.

[quote]Not all those who died at Auschwitz were burned in the ovens.[/quote]

Oh! Now I see. How many? Just a few? A random selection? You said women, children and the elderly. That doesn't leave many, does it.

[quote]A large number were cremated in outdoor pyres. In those disposals, rows of bodies were laid across logs, with another row of logs laid over those, more bodies, and so on. The piles could be up to six or eight feet high. They were built upon a grid of railroad rails, laid about one foot apart, over a large pit for the ashes.

After such a pile was built - containing perhaps several hundred bodies - gasoline was thrown onto the mass. Such a pyre would then burn for many hours.[/quote]

Extraordinary. Have any extraordinary evidence?

[quote]You are a Holocaust denier and all your "arguments" are not only disrespectful towards the people who suffered and were killed but also easy to debunk. I'd advise you to speak to one of the few survivors left or visit Auschwitz yourself.[/quote]

Uh-huh. What I think is that you are emotionally fixated with an false ideology you were in some way brainwashed with. Perhaps you feel sympathy for the atrocities you sincerely believe, as any reasonable person would. As I did for most of my life until I was introduced to the facts.

I hate everyone in general and in the Biblical righteous sense. That means simply I want nothing to do with them, or as little as possible, but I wouldn't wish harm upon or take pleasure in any harm done to anyone. In fact I would do all I can to prevent it. But I don't believe you. Your argument is very flawed.

I am, though, surprised at least your attempt to defend something you believe strongly about. I think you should be commended for that. Especially given the nonsense of every single other response so far.
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Why did ytou choose to believe this person?
Why did you choose to believe this college students report?
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1. The term 6 million has significant figurative meaning to many Jewish people, well documented as far back as the 1880s as shown in the second video I provided a link to. 6 million Jews were have said to perish in a virtually endless number of ways well before Hitler's Nazi party took control. It was a political smokescreen to garner support for the 1917 Balfour Declaration (also linked to in the OP) and play the victim card throughout the subsequent years, even still today.

2. The word Holocaust, as used in the Spanish Bible and translated from the Hebrew/Greek as indicated in the Wikipedia article I linked to, means sacrifice, or specifically "whole burnt offering." Moses was told, for example, to provide a holocausto after leaving the ark. The conclusion that the very real events of World War II, which killed millions of people, including a rough estimate of 70 million Soviets, has some particular significance with the Jewish people seems suspicious pandering to me. Pop culture and allied proven propaganda of the allies doesn't make it look any better to me. Far more serious atrocities were ignored comparatively speaking.
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@BritishFailedAesthetic Since you can't refute any of the fact I've presented, answer the part about the Bible.

1. God created one race. The human race. We all come from one human couple.
2. God created the nation of Israel. Jehovah is the God of the Jews.
3. God selected the people. They were his chosen people.
4. The Bible was written by Jews, and is mostly about the Jewish people. Including the persecution and death of many, by, among others, the Babylonians, Greeks, and themselves.
5. My lord and savior, Jesus Christ, was a Jew. As were all of his early disciples and the apostles.

How come I'm such a pig for denying wartime propaganda so easily proven false and you wouldn't say the same for any of the atheists here who mock, scorn, criticize and deny the events reported in the Bible?

 
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