Is science the religion of atheism?

@ChadJNSD What do you mean by "naysayers"? What are they criticizing or opposing?

@sree251 Criticizing, faith based principles.

@ChadJNSD Science is not religion science changes its views on what we have observed religion resist change so that their power can be conserved

@ChadJNSD Science is faith based also. The technical term is "theory", hypothesis, or assumption.

@SatyrService Science has to change its views because it is a "suck and see" approach to learning about what it assumes the world is. Religion is not about this world.

@sree251 It is clearly you don’t understand how that process works. Also religion is about no world at all it’s all made up

@sree251 a theory or hypothesis has nothing to do with faith of any kind. A theory or hypothesis is an explanation for something that can then be challenged, confirmed or disputed on examination of evidence. Faith is assuming something and not challenging it at all. The two are nothing alike.

@CelestiaStella Newton's theory of gravity explains why you fall if you jump off a cliff. You can confirm that (not by jumping which can be only done once but) by throwing rocks off the cliff. I reject Newton's explanation that gravity (attraction between masses) is the cause. Life is a mystery. I know I can fall but I reject the science. I prefer the mystery.

@sree251 you prefer not knowing the mechanism as to why? Can you provide evidence to explain your rejection of Newton's theory? Just saying 'I reject X' means nothing.

@CelestiaStella Good question.

The mechanism of why things fall is a concept, an idea that enables us to do practical things. Newton's theory (masses attract each other), allow us to design buildings and bridges, and even navigate satellites in space as well as travel to the moon. As I said, it is a concept. The rock you hold in your hand feels heavy. Atheists, and even the Pope, believe that it is attracted by the Earth. I don't.

@sree251 so you're being contrarian for the sake of being contrary. Irritating nonsense

@CelestiaStella I am not being contrarian just to go against the grain. People can't think. Only a few do the thinking for the masses.

"For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, ..." (Matthew 7:13-14)

@sree251 you stated your position, which flies in the face of a well-established scientific fact, then refused to provide evidence for your position. That is almost by definition contrarian.

@CelestiaStella What is a fact of science? Is it not an assertion of the scientist, the observer of the fact? Without the observer, there is no fact.

@sree251 Gravity. Gravity... is a fact. I'm tired of arguing with a professional contrarian. My toddler has a better grasp of such things.

@CelestiaStella Gravity is the invisible physical force that pulls objects to each other. I am looking at a cup on the table. If gravity is a fact, then there is an invisible force pulling that cup to me. It isn't moving. I also cannot feel that cup pulling me to it.

Your toddler's mind is being shaped by your facts.