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Entwistle · 56-60, M
Although women are subservient to men in Islam no?
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Islamreligion · F
@Entwistle it is clear in the verse above that we were all created from male and female
And non is superior to other expect by piety and good action.
And non is superior to other expect by piety and good action.
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Islamreligion · F
@Emosaur no where in Christianity it says marry one wife
It’s the church that made that up
Solomon and Abraham how many wives did they have ? According to the Bible ?
Islam doesn’t say you must marry 4
But You can marry 4
However woman can in her marriage contract say he can’t marry another then ig he agrees he can’t.
It’s simple
As for women cannot marrying others
It’s bc women receive dowry
But if they can marry many
She will marry and divorce for money
Also because Islam is for all time
What if she gets pregnant and she doesn’t know who’s kid it is ?
And many other reasons
Hitting , prophet Mohammed never hit a woman his entire life. And I follow him
As for what scholars say check YouTube already explained
It’s the church that made that up
Solomon and Abraham how many wives did they have ? According to the Bible ?
Islam doesn’t say you must marry 4
But You can marry 4
However woman can in her marriage contract say he can’t marry another then ig he agrees he can’t.
It’s simple
As for women cannot marrying others
It’s bc women receive dowry
But if they can marry many
She will marry and divorce for money
Also because Islam is for all time
What if she gets pregnant and she doesn’t know who’s kid it is ?
And many other reasons
Hitting , prophet Mohammed never hit a woman his entire life. And I follow him
As for what scholars say check YouTube already explained
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Islamreligion · F
@Emosaur I replied to why women can’t have multiple husbands
But you ignored my points
Anyways
equality and Justice are different things.
Men give dowry to women to make her happy
Men spend on women but it’s her choice to spend on him or not
Why? Isn’t that unfair ?
men can’t wear Gold but women can
Islam kids are more obligated to spend time with their mom before their dad
Isn’t that unfair ?
Things balance out
But you ignored my points
Anyways
equality and Justice are different things.
Men give dowry to women to make her happy
Men spend on women but it’s her choice to spend on him or not
Why? Isn’t that unfair ?
men can’t wear Gold but women can
Islam kids are more obligated to spend time with their mom before their dad
Isn’t that unfair ?
Things balance out
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Islamreligion · F
@Emosaur so if you believe in equality
Will you give a 4 year old and a math expert
Same math test?
Why not? That’s equality.
But not justice.
Similarly, women and men
None is better than the other
But they are not the same.
You say man can marry 4
Yes “can”
But woman can choose not to let him
What’s wrong with that?
And a woman can’t marry multiple for many reasons
Like if both fathers want a child at same time
Or who’s child it is
And etc etc etc
But she has many other advantages
Everyone’s right is preserved
As for hitting prophet Mohammed never hit a woman
He would have if he wanted to set the perfect Muslim example
Will you give a 4 year old and a math expert
Same math test?
Why not? That’s equality.
But not justice.
Similarly, women and men
None is better than the other
But they are not the same.
You say man can marry 4
Yes “can”
But woman can choose not to let him
What’s wrong with that?
And a woman can’t marry multiple for many reasons
Like if both fathers want a child at same time
Or who’s child it is
And etc etc etc
But she has many other advantages
Everyone’s right is preserved
As for hitting prophet Mohammed never hit a woman
He would have if he wanted to set the perfect Muslim example
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Islamreligion · F
@Emosaur believers are divided into levels in Islam
Not all can be like prophet Mohammed
But it’s better to be something than nothing.
The Quran also later revealed :
Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah often.
And when we look at the life of prophet Mohammed he never hit a woman
Although conflicts happened in his household
Not even that but many times his father in law would try to hit his daughter (prophet Mohammeds wife ) for disrespecting prophet Mohammed or something but he would get in the way and stop him and protect his wife and lighten the mood with his softness insteadd And in various hadeeths he talking about not hitting women
And That verse is highly debated among Muslims and scholars
Not all can be like prophet Mohammed
But it’s better to be something than nothing.
The Quran also later revealed :
Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah often.
And when we look at the life of prophet Mohammed he never hit a woman
Although conflicts happened in his household
Not even that but many times his father in law would try to hit his daughter (prophet Mohammeds wife ) for disrespecting prophet Mohammed or something but he would get in the way and stop him and protect his wife and lighten the mood with his softness insteadd And in various hadeeths he talking about not hitting women
And That verse is highly debated among Muslims and scholars
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Islamreligion · F
@Emosaur I answered it many times. But I do not think you read my comments. Please go back and check
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Entwistle · 56-60, M
@Islamreligion A man and a 4 year old doing the same math test is not equality as they are at different levels of ability due to age and experience.
@Emosaur I think I know why you are refraining from describing what a Muslim man should do in my hypothetical question and why you just keep trying to say that Islam teaches this.
What we have in the Qur'an regarding wives is that you cannot harm them in Surah Talaq, ayah 6:
https://quran.com/65/6
"Do not harm them" is explicitly mentioned. You and I both clearly know, since you keep talking about Islam's teachings, Ibn Abbaas explained when the people asked in the past, recorded in Tafsir Tabari if I am not mistaken 🤔
I can search it for you myself if you want, that you hit without harming her or leaving a bruise, using something like the little toothpick brushes they use called مسوق. What kind of beating or hitting is that? It certainly won't hurt but it sure will get your attention
Furthermore, the usage of this is with ignoring her. You are distancing yourself from her. The term ضرب used in the Qur'an historically 1400+ years ago encompassed the concept of striking, from a hammer hitting a railroad nail to just simply jokingly slapping your friend on the shoulder. In my university, we would say إضربه "hit him" as play.
Now, bump all this. Say I'm wrong. You really wanna keep repeating Islam teaches this. Who teaches in Islam that you molly whop your wife? I'm curious? Or that you harm your wife?
What we have in the Qur'an regarding wives is that you cannot harm them in Surah Talaq, ayah 6:
https://quran.com/65/6
"Do not harm them" is explicitly mentioned. You and I both clearly know, since you keep talking about Islam's teachings, Ibn Abbaas explained when the people asked in the past, recorded in Tafsir Tabari if I am not mistaken 🤔
I can search it for you myself if you want, that you hit without harming her or leaving a bruise, using something like the little toothpick brushes they use called مسوق. What kind of beating or hitting is that? It certainly won't hurt but it sure will get your attention
Furthermore, the usage of this is with ignoring her. You are distancing yourself from her. The term ضرب used in the Qur'an historically 1400+ years ago encompassed the concept of striking, from a hammer hitting a railroad nail to just simply jokingly slapping your friend on the shoulder. In my university, we would say إضربه "hit him" as play.
Now, bump all this. Say I'm wrong. You really wanna keep repeating Islam teaches this. Who teaches in Islam that you molly whop your wife? I'm curious? Or that you harm your wife?
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@Emosaur so that's your response to who taught you that you should molly whop your wife in Islam? 🤨
Tell me where you got that idea from because you keep saying that and have yet to justify your stance. Either that, or you just learned something
And I dunno any consequences for something harmless, dude. Instead of 24/7 tryna bring up some kinds deflection to explaining yourself, substantiate your claim with teachings in Islam, dude
Tell me where you got that idea from because you keep saying that and have yet to justify your stance. Either that, or you just learned something
And I dunno any consequences for something harmless, dude. Instead of 24/7 tryna bring up some kinds deflection to explaining yourself, substantiate your claim with teachings in Islam, dude
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