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Here's Hoping for a Philadelphia vs. Cleveland World Series.

With my Cubbies out because of the stupid playoff format, I hope it's Philadelphia and Cleveland in the World Series this year. Not for love of either team, but to exclude the other choices.

Los Angeles - 2017
Milwaukee - geography
Atlanta - they signed Greg Maddux !
San Diego - 1984 wasn't born yet but still

Yankees - 1932
Tampa - They're in FLORIDA!
Dirty Hose - need I really explain?
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SouthernGuy1987 · 36-40, M
I'd love for Tampa to make it because I have many friends there and they've had an incredible season. They really deserve it ✨
beckyromero · 41-45, F
@SouthernGuy1987

Rays lucked out because Aaron Judge missed most of the season. Otherwise, they'd have just been another wild card.

(How did Judge get passed over for 30 rounds in the draft?! Our scouts even picked Ryan Hartman FIFTEEN ROUNDS ahead of him.)
Have they been replaced by bots? @beckyromero
RedBaron · M
That’s obviously not happening, and quit whining about the playoff format.

For any team, play better and win, or lose and go home. Just like the Mets and all the other teams that didn’t qualify, the Cubs, Astros, Phillies, and Red Sox simply weren’t good enough this year.

The fault lies with the teams, not the format.
beckyromero · 41-45, F
@RedBaron

The fault lies with the Comish.

RedBaron · M
@beckyromero Give it up. The Cubs weren’t good enough. Play better and win, simple as that.
RedBaron · M
What you need to be doing is rooting for the White Sox if you have any loyalty to Chicago.
beckyromero · 41-45, F
@RedBaron

They're invaders from St. Paul.

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beckyromero · 41-45, F
@jackjjackson

Pay no attention to the @RedBaron. He's about to get shot down with the idea that "they were going to relocate in any case."

You see, there WERE local buyers who WOULD have kept the Athletics in Philly after the Mack finally agreed to sell.

Johnson purchased Yankee Stadium and Blues Stadium (the home of Kansas City’s American Association team) from Yankee co-owners Dan Topping and Del Webb in 1953. Yankee Stadium cost him $3.6 million and then he took out a $2.9 million mortgage from the Yankees, who took out a long term lease to play in the stadium. The total cost of the deal, including Blues Stadium, was $6.5 million.

Johnson then sold the land under Yankee Stadium to the Knights of Columbus for $2.5 million, leasing it back from them for 28 years at $182,000 a year in rent. He then sold Blues Stadium to Kansas City.

When Johnson made a bid to buy the Athletics, the Yankees were his biggest supporters.

But a group led by Philadelphia auto dealer John Crisconi had made an officer and the Mack family agreed to it, even signing contracts!

Roy Mack affixes his signature to an agreement selling the Athletics to the Philadelphia syndicate on October 17, 1954—a commitment Roy would betray just a day later in a backroom deal with Arnold Johnson. (Courtesy of Robert D. Warrington)

But Arnold Johnson had the backing of the Yankees and, well, you know how it was with the Yankees in their dynastic days. What New York wanted, New York got.

Connie Mack released an “open letter to Philadelphia fans” on October 29, read aloud to the assembled press by his wife Katherine, which left little doubt regarding how the “Grand Old Man of Baseball” felt about what had transpired at the owners’ meeting the day before. He began by criticizing AL owners. “They simply don’t want those men [the Philadelphia syndicate] to have the club,” he said. “It’s a runaround with an awful lot of pressure to take the A’s to Kansas City. The Kansas City set-up wants the club. Everything works to that end. No matter what the Macks say or do, the answer still will be Kansas City, of course.”

Connie Mack saved his biggest salvos, however, for son Roy. “He’s been behind everything since May, telling everybody one thing and doing something else,” the statement read. “Actions speak louder than words, and Roy’s been doing all the talking.” It continued by noting that he, Connie Sr., had thought that at the owner’s meeting “everything was going to be okay” with respect to approval of the sale of the Athletics to the Philadelphia syndicate.

Earle, by contrast, was treated favorably in the open letter, if succinctly. “I don’t think it’s any fault of his,” Connie wrote, referring to Earle. “He’s been wonderful about everything.”

Mrs. Mack added in an ad hoc comment: “New York wants this club to go to Kansas City, and when New York’s in the back and pushing it, well, there’s your answer.” She concluded the statement by saying that her husband “is feeling terrible about the whole thing.”

Of course, once the Athletics were in KC, the player transfers started. The most famous of all the Kansas City Athletics who would end up wearing pinstripes was Roger Maris, who would break Babe Ruth's single season home run record. And when the Yankees needed a player to get some "seasoning", they sent him to KC and would re-acquire him later, such as Ralph Terry who won 23 games for the Yankees in 1962.

After the one-sided deals started, the Yankees won the pennant in 1955, the World Series in 1956, the pennant in 1957, the World Series in 1958, the pennant in 1960, the World Series in 1961 and 1962 and the pennant in 1963 and 1964.

When Johnson bought the Athletics he also bought Shibe Park (renamed Connie Mack Stadium in 1953). The Phillies were a tenant there, paying the Mack family rent. Now that Johnson owned a park he had no need for, he forced Phillies owner Robert Carpenter to buy the park for $1.675 million. Carpenter didn't want the park, but the Phillies needed a place to place and were now financially crippled for 15 years, playing in an outdated ballpark until they and the NFL's Eagle moved into the new Veterans Stadium.

For further reading, see:
https://sabr.org/journal/article/departure-without-dignity-the-athletics-leave-philadelphia/
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero Hey, how ‘bout those Southside Sox!
I still have a Tim McCarver bat from a Connie Mack Stadium I attended. Also an original stadium painting. @beckyromero
Beetlejuice68 · 56-60, M
What about White Sox?
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero Or do what I do since I have no control over outcomes. Just relax and be happy for whomever wins, even more so if it’s a team that rarely wins like the Brewers, Guardians, White Sox, or Rays.
beckyromero · 41-45, F
@RedBaron

At this point, I'm rooting for Cleveland, even though they are in the American League.
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero Whatever floats your boat.
A sweet dream while it lasted
Nevertooold · 56-60, M
I guess you aren't allowed to be a Cubbies fan and a fan of the Southside White Sox????
RedBaron · M
@Nevertooold She can root as she chooses, but there’s no such rule.

I am a lifelong Mets fan, but there have been times I rooted for the Yankees against non-New York opponents.
beckyromero · 41-45, F
@RedBaron
I am a lifelong Mets fan, but there have been times I rooted for the Yankees against non-New York opponents.

🤣 Probably only because they were playing the Braves, Nats or Phillies. Maybe even those fish in Florida.

And NO DOUBT ABOUT IT if they were playing the Reds in game #162 last year. 😜

How'd you like the playoff format with no tie-breaker game LAST year?
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero It was fine, and I was over it by the next day. Life goes on.

 
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