Burden of Proof [I Am Not An Atheist]

@eMortal not at all. Logic demands that it had to have a creator. But then atheism and logic never did go together

@eMortal The hypothetical creator must be even more complex, therefore it must have had a creator.

Totally wrong as the creator is eternal. You need to stretch your tiny mind@NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman Like the universe then so why is a creator needed? I see you've had to resort to silly insults, can't you express yourself in a civil manner?

Not at all is that your mind is too small to comprehend an infinite creator@NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman No, I just don't need to imagine such a thing like you do.

Not imagination mate just fact Not imagination mate just fact - facts your mind is too small to take in. @NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman Facts are supported by evidence so where is it? I don't want some vague reference to "everything around you", I expect real evidence pointing to your specific god and no other. Silly insults just weaken your position, you wouldn't need them if you had a decent argument.

Plenty of evidence pal. The New Testament has been preserved in more manuscripts than any other ancient work of literature, with over 5,800 complete or fragmented Greek manuscripts catalogued, 10,000 Latin manuscripts and 9,300 manuscripts in various other ancient languages including Syriac, Slavic, Gothic, Ethiopic, Coptic and Armenian. The dates of these manuscripts range from c. 125 (the P {\mathfrak {P}}52 papyrus, oldest copy of John fragments) to the introduction of printing in Germany in the 15th century. It has the best attested manuscript evidence of any ancient history, vastly more than any other documents from. Which we get history . . @NortiusMaximus

Yes but the problem for you is tha5 our faith is informed. Your atheism is not @BigBrotherFan

Christianity is based on the historical fact that Jesus rose from The dead. Atheism is based on sherr supposition and ignorance @BigBrotherFan

@Speedyman [quote]Christianity is based on the historical fact that Jesus rose from The dead.[/quote]
It not a fact though.

Odinism is based on the historical fact that Odin rose from the dead after sacrificing Himself on the Yggdrasil Tree.

You know nothing@NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman LOL, Even if that were true, it would still be more than you know.

As you know nothing, how would you know?@NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman Now you're just highlighting your own ignorance.

No yours@NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman You're doing it aging. Please, carry on making a fool of yourself.

@NortiusMaximus

@Speedyman Stupid childish insults do nothing to prove your case, on the contrary, they show you don't have one.

That’s a childish insults but the wise statement of scripture about people like you@NortiusMaximus