I Am Not An Atheist

I do know quite a but about Lewis, actually. I also know quite a bit about the arrogance of atheists ! @Ynotisay

@Speedyman Religious people aren't necessarily humble, Speedy.

Atheism is based on arrogance@LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman You're confusing atheism with religious belief. In [i]Mere Christianity[/i], Lewis expresses his contempt for anyone who believes differently than he does. He's an arrogant twit and a horrible spokesman for Christianity. I read the book on the recommendation that Lewis, as a former atheist, would be more relateable, but like many converts, he's repulsive.

No my friend you are expressing contempt for anyone who believes differently from you. You constantly project your own prejudices onto other people but you don't know you're doing it. But deluded people don't@LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman All you did in your other post was insult me. You also believe that everyone with an opinion different from yours is an idiot.

Please provide objective proof of God's existence instead of just telling people they're stupid because they don't attend your church.

It's interesting that people like you who call other people's beliefs stupid, of the 1st to get offended when somebody calls their own philosophy unreasonable and lacking in logic. I would've thought just a read of Lewis would've been enough to convince any intelligent man of the existence of God. There is also the fact that in telling me you need objective proof of God, the fact that you believe in a rational universe , and the rational universe could only have been created by a rational being and not irrational blind forces as the atheist believes. This is why atheism is completely illogical, as you can't even trust that your own mind is rational . @LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman I'm going to jump in here because I can't help it.

First you said, "... you are expressing contempt for anyone who believes differently from you."

No. He didn't express contempt for "people." He expressed contempt for Lewis.

Strike one.

Then you said, "It's interesting that people like you who call other people's beliefs stupid,"

No. He didn't call people's beliefs stupid. He asked you to stop calling other people stupid who don't attend your church.

Strike two.

Something tells me if he responds again you'll come back with something fictional like you've done twice.

Now, do you see why so many get frustrated with those who willingly ignore the truth in lieu of what they want to see?

Come on man. You're clearly not an idiot. So let's at least try to stick to the truth for your jumping off points in your arguments, huh?

@Speedyman An intelligent read of Lewis would make a reasonable man conclude that belief in God is as silly as belief in fairies and leprechauns. I mentioned other religious philosophers like Craig and Van Til, because, even though I disagree with their conclusions, I give them credit for careful and reasoned argument. Lewis on the other hand is a fiction writer, so he assumes that merely stating something in clear language is adequate. It's not. Lewis is dime-store apologetics for people who are unwilling or unable to read anything more advanced. [i]Mere Christianity[/i] is baby food.

Who says I believe in a "rational universe?" Since the universe has no mind, it can no more be "rational" than a rock or a cloud can be "rational." The flaw in your thinking is the blithe assertion that "God is rational" when you're completely unable to explain where God came from or how he developed rationality, other than the empty claim that "he just is."

Your "God" is nothing more than a semantic stopsign, meaning it doesn't answer the question; it merely halts further questioning.

[i]And the child asked:[/i]

Q: Where did this rock come from?
A: I chipped it off the big boulder, at the center of the village.
Q: Where did the boulder come from?
A: It probably rolled off the huge mountain that towers over our village.
Q: Where did the mountain come from?
A: The same place as all stone: it is the bones of Ymir, the primordial giant.
Q: Where did the primordial giant, Ymir, come from?
A: From the great abyss, Ginnungagap.
Q: Where did the great abyss, Ginnungagap, come from?
A: Never ask that question.

Exactly in expressing contempt for Lewis he expresses contempt for somebody believe differently from himseof. I thought that point would've been obvious . Secondly if you look back he did call other peoples arguments stupid. And I did not call other people stupid he would not attend my church I called other peoples arguments stupid because they were irrational. You need to learn to read . There are those of us to get for straight it with people like you who ignore the truth that atheism is a complete delusion and that the only logical solution to a rational universe is theism. You should apply your own points to yourself before you start criticising others. You can live in your world of illusion but I will live in a world of reality thank you very much@Ynotisay

You appear to know very little about CS Lewis and no doubt I just mopping up what certain idiots have written on the Internet about him. A man who is a tined of trouble first class honours degree at the leading university in the country can hardly be looked down upon in the way you are. Because he attempted to communicate with the common people and did it brilliantly, pseudo intellectual people like yourself want to dismiss him, like indeed his fellow dons did at Oxford by refusing him a fellowship because he read children's stories, which they considered beyond them . The very success of those stories which have entranced generations of children make his critics look stupid. The fact of Lewises own journey from atheism to Christianity by rationality made him somewhat knowledgeable about the irrationality of atheism and the rationality of theism and Christianity. The fact that pseudo intellectual is like yourself who are trying to be clever but actually revealing your own inadequacies of intellect, dismiss him, is of absolutely no consequence to anyone who is the least bit intelligent .
Your idiotic assumption that God is a semantic stop sign is nothing more than your own lack of the understanding of the issues involved . In fact there is an atheist you don't even know whether your own thinking is rational as you belueve you are the product of a rational and blind forces working by chance. The continued asking of childish questions does nothing to advance your argument which is totally sterile . @LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman CS Lewis was never a real Atheist anyway.

@Speedyman So the religious man is choosing to live in a world of reality while the atheist is choosing the world of illusion, huh?
Wow.
Just...
Wow.

@Speedyman Have you read Craig or Van Til? Gregory Bahnsen? Or too advanced for you?

You probably think Lee Strobel is a philosopher and David Barton is a historian. And Ken Ham is a biologist.

I remember reading dear old Bertrand Russell and wondering whether it would challenge faith. I just couldn't believe the simplistic and pathetic arguments he put down. These people might impress gullible people like you but I'm afraid those of us who can think Are not impressed with their posturings. You know that thing that Richard Dawkins a philosopher of note ? I'm afraid these pathetic putdowns do not impress me . No do the tired arguments of people working themselves into a lather hating the God they don't believe in . @LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman What could be more simplistic and pathetic than your idiotic claim that "goddidit"? You have no evidence to support that ridiculous assertion. All you ever do is insult anyone who doesn't swallow that rubbish without question. You don't impress anyone except your few hangers-on.

What good morning more idiotic and a claim that nothing made something?@suzie1960

@Speedyman Exactly. I don't understand why you keep claiming it did.

@Speedyman You're right. The universe was created when the bird Nyx laid a golden egg, and Eros hatched out of it. The egg split in two, one part went up and became the sky and was called Uranus, while the other part became the earth and was called Gaia. Eros made Uranus and Gaia fall in love, and they had many children, who were the Titans. One of them named Chronos swallowed all of his own children, but their mother, Rhea, protected one of them. This child became Zeus, king of the gods.

Your explanation is no more coherent than that and has no more basis in reality; you just use different names and change the story somewhat.

No of course you're running out of arguments and revert to stupidities which most atheists do to be honest so you're not alone . If you can't come up with anything better than this then please refrain or get a brain. @LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman The story of Nyx and Eros is no less valid than your idiotic fantasy. If you can't understand that, you need to get a brain.

@Speedyman Hmm...now the way you just spoke to that person doesn't quite seem in line with the teachings, now does it?

Matthew 5:21-22
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ [b]But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. [/b]

Pretty gutsy man. Guess you don't really believe in hell, huh? Either that or you're just want those guys who talks the talk but has no connection to walking the walk. Yeah. I think that's probably it.

@Speedyman If Jesus actually existed and knew what his so-called followers were up to, he would never stop vomiting. You're a disgrace to your claimed "religion." Fortunately, not all Christians are arrogant cretins like you. There are still a few decent ones, for example, Rob Bell, John Shore, and several others.

Sorry but you are projecting your own arrogance on to me . It's always amazes me that when atheists make arrogant and derogatory statements they assume it's their right. When the theist tells them how ridiculous their statements are you accuse him of arrogance. The problem with the atheist is that his arguments do not stand up to robust argument. You are there a tiny speck in this vast universe and saying if anything is beyond my understanding it cannot exist . That isn't arrogance I don't know what is@LeopoldBloom

@Speedyman [quote]The problem with the atheist is that his arguments do not stand up to robust argument.[/quote]
Wrong again. You don't even have a logical argument. You can't even offer any evidence to support your ridiculous claims.