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"Atheism" is a denial of sin and rebellion against God who calls it out! When God saves us we are not deceived. we realize we need a savior,

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ArishMell · 70-79, M
Carazza, can you possibly accept that not everyone shares your religious belief, however sincerely you hold it, but whether followers of another faith, and agnostic (a word rare on SW) or an atheist, it does not automatically make them bad people!
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@ArishMell It's extremely insulting. They claim to be loving people but they are really filled with judgement and hate. Almost anger to make a post like this.
Carazaa · F
@ArishMell ♥️ Every day thousands of people die and tomorrow many will not be alive. God tells us "[b]today [/b]is the day of salvation. "Today we can repent and turn away from our sins and follow Jesus. If we die tomorrow we will be with Jesus in heaven forever. If not we will have to pay for every thought that was not loving.
God tells us to go into all the world and tell people about Jesus what he did to save the world, and that he is coming again, and the signs of the last generation (cold hearts, increased wickedness, deception and lies, and increased earthquakes, increased terrors and the sun scorching, people going back and forth, increased mockings, and falling away from faith)
I am here on SW and in this country so I know English and will tell the world about Jesus. I love you, please do not be deceived!
Carazaa · F
@JimboSaturn "We do not war against flesh and blood, but against principalities in heavenly places" Satan is out to deceive you, to kill and to destroy! Many God haters like Paul in the Bible have turned to God. That is what I am praying for. I do this because I love people. I am angry about all the deception in the world, not angry with people who are deceived. They just don't know they are deceived by Satan!
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@JimboSaturn @ArishMell this site is like living in the US south. Jesus billboards everywhere.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Carazaa I'm not deceived by anyone. I love and do my best to help people. If that is what you call evil and deceived by satan, well go ahead.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Akimbo75 Only this kind of religion makes good people do and say such evil things. If anyone is deceived into being judgmental and evil it is them.
jackieash · 26-30
@Carazaa How can we be "deceived" by "Satan " when we reject the idea of "gods" and "devils"., and whatever "sin" is supposed to be.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@jackieash Basically she is saying we are bad people because we do not believe in Jesus and Satan and even if we are good, loving people, we are deceived and going to hell where we will be punished for eternity.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@JimboSaturn Insulting, perhaps, and rather patronising; but I would not go as far as judgement and hate.

Some proselytisers may well be embittered misanthropes, some may be guilty of using their faith for coercive and controlling behaviour in their real worlds; but I think most simply find it difficult to accept that theirs is not the only set of beliefs.
Carazaa · F
@ArishMell True! But that is not my case, because I know God as well as you know your family!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Carazaa For self-denial and conceit in one sentence, that takes some beating :-)

"True but ... not in my case" - Not true. You cannot cope with religious ideas not your own, and which are just as credible to their followers as yours are to you.

You "...know God...." Yes, your interpretation in your own way. We all see that.

"... as well as you know your family". Oh aye? No-one can honestly claim to "know" any deity like that. They can only [i]believe[/i] in it, and know their own faith's own interpretations of it.

You still pass over my central point though, that you cannot imply anyone not having your faith is axiomatically a "sinner". Just because [i]you[/i] believe in Jesus does not mean [i]everyone [/i]should believe in Jesus. Just because Jesus taught good behaviour, you do not need believe in Jesus to treat other people properly.

Indeed, one of the nastier forms of bullying - at family, school and in some countries government level - is enforcing specific religious ideas which should be entirely by individual choice.
Carazaa · F
@ArishMell I come from Scandinavia that was christian for 1000 years and are the most equal, free, and happy countries in the world. They never had more crime and problems until they decided to not teach Bible and have prayer in school. That's when the crime increased! When prayer was taken out of American schools that's when the school shootings started. We have problems in the world because we stopped praying and stopped teaching our children Bible stories!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Carazaa Come off it! So because I and many of my friends are not practising, church-going Christians we are potential murderers? What gives you the right to assume because you believe in your god in your way then everyone else must either follow suit or be rejected?
Carazaa · F
@ArishMell Don't be deceived by Satan!
Carazaa · F
@JimboSaturn [quote]Basically she is saying we are bad people because we do not believe in Jesus and Satan and even if we are good, loving people, we are deceived and going to hell where we will be punished for eternity[/quote].

"our best work is like dirty rags" God tells us. What he means is that we can not earn heaven by doing good."All have sinned and come short of the glory of God"

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him will lot perish, but have everlasting life."
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