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Will Jesus's second coming be visible?

A Response To The Skeptic's Annotated Bible (SAB) - Will Jesus' Second Coming Be Visible To All?

The SAB raises the question of whether or not Jesus' return would be visible to all. This response concludes that his return would be visible but not in the manner in which is often thought. The Bible never indicates that Jesus would return in physical form, but that he would return his attention back to Earth, where he would be in spirit. Jesus' return is often thought to be in the physical form of a man, but scripture never speaks of his return in such a manner.

In order to establish a contradiction the SAB uses John 14:19 in support that Jesus return would not be visible and parallel accounts given at Matthew 24:30; Mark 13:26 and Luke 21:27 as well as Revelation 1:7 in support that his return would be visible.

John 14:19 - Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Jesus was telling his disciples that the world would see him no more because he would be put to death, but they would see him again because he would be resurrected and he would resurrect them in spirit upon their deaths. The verse has nothing to do with his return to Earth. Paul later confirms this by saying that, in spirit form no man has seen Jesus and none will, unless they be changed into spirit form. (1 Timothy 6:14-16; 2 Corinthians 5:14; 1 Peter 3:18)

At Matthew 24:30 the Greek word horao is translated "see" but can also mean to discern. A Greek-English Lexicon, by Liddell and Scott, says of horao "metaphorically, of mental sight, discern, perceive." - 1948 edition, pages 1244, 1245. This metaphorical perception can also be confirmed by Paul's use of horao at Romans 1:20 where things are invisible yet perceived.

Clouds, like those mentioned in the verses given by the SAB are typically used in a symbolic sense to signify the presence of God (Isaiah 63:9; 1 Kings 8:10-12)

The SAB then says: "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 without clouds, glory, or being seen by anyone.

Thanks to the WatchTower Society for pointing out this contradiction. (Reasoning From the Scriptures, p. 313, 342-3)"

Response: From page 313 of that Watchtower publication it says: "Jesus foretold: "Then they will see the Son of man [Jesus Christ] coming in a cloud with power and great glory." (Luke 21:27 RSV) In no way does this statement or similar ones in other texts contradict what Jesus said as recorded at John 14:19. Consider: At Mount Sinai, what occurred when God 'came to the people in a thick cloud,' as stated at Exodus 19:9 (RSV)? God was invisibly present; the people of Israel saw visible evidence of his presence, but none of them actually saw God with their eyes. So, too, when Jesus said that he would come "in a cloud," he must have meant that he would be invisible to human eyes but that humans would be aware of his presence. They would "see" him with their mental eyes, discerning the fact that he was present."
Mathers · 61-69
How can a guy be as wrong as you are? Acts 1 says that ““Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1‬:‭11‬ ‭NIV‬‬
If you know the English language the meaning is obvious
Mathers · 61-69
In the same way? He went physically he will come back physically. Or have words changed their meaning?@BibleData
BibleData · M
@Mathers And the people there at that time - the men of Galilee? Standing there looking will still be looking when he comes back?
Mathers · 61-69
The Angel didn’t say they (is those disciples) would see him. Just that he would return @BibleData
SW-User
Where can I purchase one of those (SAB) bibles?

When I was a kid, I was told that there would be chaos, because so many people would vanish.

Frankly, it’s troubling that adults with presumably a high school education are still gnawing on this bone.

I guess it keeps churches open and money flowing.

This is for you TS:

Will god need our money in heaven?
Because, it seems he needs it a lot now.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to keep the cash flow moving?

Also, do you have an advanced degree M.Div. Etc?

Or are you just a hobbyist ?
I find what you've written interesting, but Im not sure I can fully agree with your conclusions.

Acts 1:10-11 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

still, I cannot claim to know what to expect, only that in time we will all know.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
Rev. 1:7
Behold, He is coming with clouds, [b]and every eye will see Him,[/b] even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@BibleData Here is what I believe; he had a physical form after his resurrection, and will have a physical form when he returns
Acts 1:9-11 states :
9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
BibleData · M
@GJOFJ3 And what manner is that?
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@BibleData Visible
revenant · F
You see..pun non intended...I would have linked the Greek word Horao

to Horus, the eye of Horus

which would have given words like hours, honorary

Horror perhaps ?
all back to Orobouros and the wheel of time.
calicuz · 51-55, M
Yes, the problem is it will be a deep fake, intended to fool the masses.
SDavis · 56-60, F
Oh my God _ scripture clearly says we will be like him for we will see him as he is 1 John 3:2 ........ In Revelation chapter 1 the whole world will see him coming from the clouds in the sky with his angels following him so we'll see them too. That's far as I got on your post......
Adstar · 56-60, M
Yes the second coming of Jesus will be visable to mankind..

He is returning to earth.. to rule the nations for 1000 years and the the final judgement shall happen..
redredred · M
Jesus is my letter carrier. He’s here about 3:00 every day but Sunday. I think his last name is Lopez. He does a great job.
Thodsis · 51-55, M
He's a bit old now. I'd imagine his second coming might just be a dribble.
Human1000 · M
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Human1000 · M
You Christ cultists are weird.

 
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