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Science Lesson For The Atheists

In occidental culture, in general, the believers promulgate the apparent illusion of their possession of a superior morality. Why? Because it perpetuates their ideology. Their world view. "You don't believe what I believe so you're going to hell." How myopic and obtuse. Because religion, in that culture specifically, either as a result of the ideology or to support it, took upon itself political adversity with the emerging intelligentsia. Since that adversary arose from the illusion and the obvious logical flaws it had incorporated historically - hypocrisy, ignorance, xenophobia, oppression, repression, and violence through military, legislative and social dominance - by support of the masses, there are some important lessons to be learned from it.

The teachings of the believers was full of holes. They weren't harmonious with the source. In order for, or as a result of the implementation of their sociopolitical illusion it was necessarily so. Their ideology wasn't compatible with their teachings. That doesn't matter. It's a small sacrifice because their ideology is what became important.

So, there's this reality created from that transmogrification of the source and mythology. If I had to define religion that's pretty much how I would put it. That's also how I would describe the world around me. Reality. The sacred and profane. Secular and religious. Quixotic and mundane.

So there is this logical excursion that should be derived from this turn of events. Critically examine, explore, educate, illuminate. Or, instead, just repeat it. Argue, judge, sentence and eliminate. Become your enemy. Just another side of the ideological coin of reality. The world view.

[Laughs] My theory is that the latter is what is happening to science. That's what I mean when I say "the end" is near and that science will destroy the world. Science isn't a religion, it's a byproduct of religion. Created by religion: the student becomes the master. Science is not only eliminating religion it is surpassing it.

The lesson for atheists, or just the unbeliever, is that it doesn't matter if religion and the Bible is wrong and nonsense, because it is the formed "reality" and instead of arguing what is right and wrong, perhaps you should look at it like that.

From my perspective, from my Biblically founded perception of reality, it's done. So, stopping it isn't anywhere near my priority. My priority is simply observation.

That's why I want an exchange of ideas here. I want to learn, not from the books of science, but from adversity. Both sides. Without the propaganda.

It astounds me that those who wear scientific methodology on their sleeves are painfully unaware or unwilling to do that. Not for the historical preservation of the vanquished. To educate so as not to repeat history. But rather, for the ideological replacement.

Right and wrong. Us and them. A far more compelling process than science. As it had been with the adversary. So the illusion propagated by the unbelievers is of intellectual superiority.

Yeah, I know, I know. It is funny. So is the illusion of the religious of moral superiority.

So . . . if I'm right in my Biblically founded perspective then you will attempt to destroy all that I believe in but God will intervene. Science will be taken from your cold dead hands and placed into mine. Not by me. Not by my argument or my violence. By God. So, if I'm wrong nothing happens through my will.

If you're right you will destroy first science and then the world.

If I'm right everyone who follows ideological science will be destroyed. If you're right everyone will be destroyed.
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DocSavage · M
[quote] The preponderance of evidence points to the existence of Yahweh. That completely aside the facts are that atheists don't want Yahweh to exist so they make all kinds of silly claims in an attempt to explain away the evidence. Of course they claim it is science. It is not science. It is their religion.[/quote]

You have no idea what Atheist believe.
As an Atheist myself, I can testify to my own beliefs. And I can tell you it’s not about disproving god. It’s about accepting truth, in the face of unjustified authority.
Your attempted defense of the flood fable is a perfect example. Like most ( if not all ) you believe in it, without taking into account the physics involved. The ark could not possibly fit all the animals. There is not enough water to cover all the mountains. Other civilizations never encountered it. Etc. Etc. It simply could not happen the way the bible says it did. The same with creation in Genesis, the Tower of Babel, Exodus. It’s not just science, it recorded history. You can not expect other people to deny their own reality to cater to your beliefs. Nor is it reasonable to think they do so to spite your beliefs.
What possible reason could I have for not “wanting” Jehovah to exist ?
If god does in fact exist, and you have the evidence for it, what practical reason could I have for refusing it ? I know about Hell, if it’s real, why risk it ?
Answer is, after considering what you call evidence, I don’t find it compelling, for reasons already stated. It’s not part of any plot. It’s not a rebellion against Jehovah personally. Just those who think they speak for him. I believe in freedom of choice. It’s no sin to disagree, even with god.