What Is Atheism

Atheism is, etymologically speaking, a completely rational term. Atheism is to theism what apolitical is to politics. The terms mean not interested in or a part of theism or politics. Atheism is the antithesis of theism.

Rationally atheism is understandable. It isn't easy to wrap one's mind around the creator, Jehovah God. Such a belief requires faith.

By definition atheism is nonsensical. A god can be anyone or anything. Natural, supernatural, person, place or thing, wood, stone, flesh and bone. Even, as Paul said, ones own belly can be a god. There are countless gods. It doesn't require belief, veneration or worship on your part. I don't believe in Zeus; I don't believe he ever existed; I don't venerate or worship Zeus, and yet Zeus is a god.

The definition of atheism as disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. That's nonsensical.

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DocSavage · M

@AkioTsukino
Fertility symbols and idols, Pharaohs, judges. Are not gods, neither is cow shit. In some cases, they are viewed as agents of god, representations of gods, or human incarnations of god. But, that is only a symbolic title.
Your concept on the cow crap, also makes no sense. A useful tool or product is not usually considered as divine. Which is the context in question.

AkioTsukino · M

@DocSavage [quote]Fertility symbols and idols, Pharaohs, judges. Are not gods, neither is cow shit.[/quote]

Yes judges are. And yes shit can be. Probably is. Fertilizer, crops, fertility rituals, shit in ancient medicine. It isn't a giant leap. This is why, early on in my first posting here, I said that I have never come across an atheist who could grasp the very simple concept of gods. They think gods have to have rituals, ceremonies, religion or supernaturalism. They don't. A god can be anything or anyone or nothing. Fictional, mythological, practical, or supernatural and religious.

The apostle Paul said ones belly, i.e. food was a god.

[quote]In some cases, they are viewed as agents of god, representations of gods, or human incarnations of god. But, that is only a symbolic title.[/quote]

The word angel means messenger. In the Biblical Hebrew and Greek when the words apply to human messengers the translation is messenger, but when a spirit being is referenced the translation is angel. The words for gods mean mighty, literally. That's all. In application the might depends not upon only that, as attributed by someone. Jehovah became God to Israel.

What I like to do is ask atheist if there isn't any gods are there lords? Lord means having authority, usually but not always granted by another. Jehovah is Lord, self appointed. Christ is Lord as appointed as a representation of Jehovah. The Logos. Word. Spokesperson. Mighty, but not Almighty. Christ is a mighty god, Jehovah is God almighty.

[quote]Your concept on the cow crap, also makes no sense. A useful tool or product is not usually considered as divine.[/quote]

The crap gave him warmth, sustenance, protection from predators. How much more like a god can you possibly be?!

If you're thinking a god has to be a creator or a representation of a creator how would you explain that Jehovah told Israel not to have any gods before (in importance or veneration) him, the most high (mighty)? Those other gods don't fit your interpretation of what a god is and yet are they not gods?

[quote]Which is the context in question.[/quote]

I don't know what you're talking about there. What context in question?

DocSavage · M

@AkioTsukino
I don’t believe in god, any of them. When the discussion comes up, we’re usually talking the supernatural , creator ,omnipresent kind. Not the nonsense you keep bringing up.
Tell me something . Would the cow shit still be a god, if the man didn’t invent fire first to burn it ? Your crap, can’t do anything on it’s own can it ?
And wood is a greater god. It can be used to build and to burn. Did it demand mankind to stop burning shit, and only wood from now on ?
You’re wasting our time .

AkioTsukino · M

@DocSavage [quote]I don’t believe in god, any of them. When the discussion comes up, we’re usually talking the supernatural , creator ,omnipresent kind. Not the nonsense you keep bringing up.[/quote]

Are you feeling threatened by knowledge or ignorance or do you think I'm trying to trap you into admitting gods exist? If you're talking about supernatural gods you indicate that either by name or by simply pointing it out. In Christian and Islamic cultures God or Allah are acceptable. The upper case G gives it away. Trouble with that is it signifies acceptance of the - oh I can't think of the word - definite article. In Hebrew the definite article is ha, the word for god is el, so Ha El means The God. Like Allah means the God. (Al lah). Similarly, the word satan in Hebrew means adversary or resister. So anyone acting as adversarial or in resistance the Hebrew word is translated as adversary or resister. The first time the word is used is at Numbers 22:22. I think that's it. If not in that chapter near there. So, an angel (messenger) of Jehovah (God) acts as a resister or adversary (Hebrew satan) to Ballam. (It's Balaam's Ass). If the word appear with the definite article (Ha Satan) it is reference to the principle adversary of God, Satan. Who, by the way, is also called a god in the Bible. The god of the world. Meaning, temporarily in charge of the world to be destroyed.

I got to get some sleep. It's been a rough day.