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I Am Atheist (strong)

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AkkoChan · 26-30, M
There is no evidence that a god exists. Thousands of religious people have been challenged to provide some and all have failed.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan There is no evidence that God does not exist either. It would be very hard to prove there is no God.
dondon · M
@helensusanswift There is no evidence that the toothfairy doesn't exist or that Trump is in fact a lizzard wearing a mask.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@dondon I always had my doubts about these lizard-like politicians. But your statements - true as they may be - do nothing to disprove my statement.There is no evidence that God does not exist.
Silverwings · 61-69, F
@dondon Is that a veiled attempt to be funny?
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift Helen you are clearly very misunderstood on how this works. The burden of proof is on YOU. You are making the claim. You are claiming a god exists. YOU must prove god exists. A lightswitch is turned OFF until YOU turn it on. I only have to do one thing. Sit back, relax, eat some popcorn and wait for YOU to provide evidence. Stop trying to shift the burden of proof. I don't have to do jack shit
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan You can do whatever you like. You are claiming God does NOT exist, which goes against the belief of the majority of the world's population. There is no burden on me at all - you, however, have to alter the beliefs of thousands of years - have fun!
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift fallacy argument, just because lots of people believe it doesn't mean it's real. Eg: Santa Claus.

I do not personally care if you think the burden of proof is on me. It isn't.

I am not claiming anything. Please do not put words in my mouth.

Please provide evidence god exists
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan We exist. God made us. There can be no more tangible proof than the miracle of our existence.
I am glad you do not claim that God does not exist! Good to have you with us. Keep the Faith, like the majority of humanity. However, if your faith wavers, then any church minister will gladly help.
God Bless!
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift

Again you are making assumptions about me. [b]Please stop it.[/b]

I have not received evidence for the existence of god therefore I can not believe he exists. I am not asserting he does not exist. It's possible he exists, it's possible the tooth fairy exists. That doesn't mean I believe in God nor does that mean I reject god. [b]I am holding a NEUTRAL stance do you understand?[/b]

Existence is not evidence for god. Existence is evidence for existence. Gravity is evidence for gravity. Snakes are evidence that snakes exists. I can not see god, I can not communicate with god. I can not test god. [b]I have no discernable way of interacting with god.[/b]

Please stop trying to end this conversation. This is the second time you have tried to end this conversation. If you are going to open a dialogue about god like this, you need to commit to it and not run away when you are challenged.

[u][b]Please provide evidence that god exists.[/b][/u]
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan Again: please provide evidence that He does not exist
Using your logic, we cannot prove that love exists either, or faith, yet both do
God is the same.
He is- and our existence would not have happened without him, as a baby's existence would not have happened without her or his parents.
Simple enough for you?
By the way - I did not open this dialogue, I responded to your statement with a fact. You chose to follow on.
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift

since you insist on going around in circles because you are behaving like a child. Ok want some proof god doesn't exist? Here you go.

1. I can't touch him.
2. I can't speak to him.
3. I can't hear him.
4. I can't gather DNA from him.
5. I can't tell the difference between him and something that isn't him.
6. I can't figure out when he start existing.
7. I can't find anyone else who can answer these questions.
8. I can't find evidence he existed in the past.
9. I can't find evidence that in the future I will meet him.

[b] Do You Get It [/b]

How can I prove ANYTHING when I have nothing to work off of?
OH and before you say it [b] The bible is not evidence for the existence of god [/b]

My logic is perfectly sound. you are just taking up a contradictory position because you genuinely don't understand my point. God exists if there is EVIDENCE he exists.

A snake exists because

1. I can touch a snake.
2. I can hear a snake.
3. I can speak to a snake (though he won't understand me)
4. I can gather DNA from a snake.
5. I can tell the difference between a Snake and a Dog.
6. I can tell roughly when snakes started existing. (Prehistoric period)
7. I can find other people who can tell me about Snakes.
8. I can find snakes that died in the past.
9. I can find evidence a snake will exist in the future (Snake Egg)

[b] how do i do this with GOD?? [/b]
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan You can't. He is far beyond us.
You can't do that with love or faith either, which undoubtedly exist.
As does God.
He is in the spiritual realm.
Perhaps you lack the understanding to believe in such things as love, faith and God?
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift love can be measured. Love is a biochemical reaction which takes place in the body. It's a combination of neurological receptors which respond to visual and physical stimulation when two humans come into contact with one another.

It's further supported by the brains memory banks which makes connections to previous encounters with said humans on past experiences and is boosted by hormones produced in the body.

So yes love is real and can be tracked, monitored and has a tonne of evidence for existence

Faith on the other hand is defined as believing in something while lacking evidence.

Please for the love of god stop repeating yourself and bring something new to the table. You are going around and around and around and around in circles. Like a parrot.

So faith is pointless. Because it's believing something with no evidence and I told you already I need evidence to believe in God. So I can never have faith.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan You miss such a lot in life! 'For the love of God?' Thank you for confirming that you wish to believe.

You are unable to prove that God does not exist, aren't you?
And love is so much more than a chemical reaction!
God's love is the same.
Did you know that in the Korean war, the North Koreans (or perhaps the Chinese) separated men who had faith from those who had none. The men with faith kept their morale much better than those without. Faith is a spiritual connection with God, with the power for which you can find no evidence for.
Nothing you have said proves anything - except to you.

Find your faith - it will help the torment within you. That same torment that prompted you to make the initial statement here.
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift Yeah i'm fairly certain you are just being a troll now. No rational and intelligent person can be this evasive and distracting. You are talking nonsensicle gibberish and not answering any of my questions.

I can't tell if you're being mallicious or not but you clearly do not have the most basic amount of respect to answer a single one of my questions or address anything i said.

You aren't speaking to me, you are speaking AT me. you are having a conversation with yourself and not listening to anything i said. You just want to preach your religion and when it comes under scrutiny you become evasive and start talking about irrelevant things.

If you are genuinely this religious i feel extremely sorry for you. You are brainwashed into a cult and you are so blind to this that i don't think anything i say can change your mind.

I'm leaving you with one final question, and it's extremely important to answer this honestly.

[b] Can you be wrong about god? [/b]
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan You still have not given any way of proving that God does not exist- mainly because you can not.
Like the force of Love and the power of Faith, He does, and, as well as creating life, He also created love and faith. I notice you acknowledged the existence of love- thank you for that - although you failed to address the points I made, resorting instead to insults.

I hope you find your way, for you seem to have a modicum of intelligence behind your confusion.

Our very existence - your very existence - is proof of God.
Find faith AkkoChan; speak to a minister, priest or some other Holy man or woman who will guide you on the right path.
Love
Helen
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift

Go fuck yourself Helen how's that for finding god. No question you are a troll
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan It seems you have no answer then, AkkoChan, when you must resort to insults and abuse.
I do hope you find the answer; it is there, waiting for you. As is God.
If you are genuine about finding the answer to your internal dilemma, please speak to a church minister or priest; he or she knows far more about the spiritual side of things than I do.
Love
Helen
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
@helensusanswift

Gave you an answer. You ignored it.

I hope you find reason some day

Love akko

💙💙💙
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan Plenty reason; plenty faith.
God Bless
Helen
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@AkkoChan Bye bye
AkkoChan · 26-30, M
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
AkkoChan · 26-30, M