I Am An Atheist

@Emosaur [quote]A truly all-powerful and all-good being would have the power and the will to create a perfect world in which everyone is safe and happy[/quote]

According to the Bible, he did create that world.

I notice you avoided my questions. Do you accept responsibility? This world has more than enough food to feed everyone. There are enough resources that no one die needlessly. All we have to do is share. Why blame a god for humanity's failure?

@Emosaur [quote]The Bible does not qualify as a reliable source[/quote]

You brought up evidence from the Bible to be clarified. If you don't want others to use the bible then don't bring it up in the first place.

[quote]Besides, omnipotence is an impossible concept[/quote]

Source?

[quote]Because he knew it would fail and yet chose to create it this way.[/quote]

Actually we could easily just start sharing. It's never too late. What if tomorrow we have peace? You seem to think humanity is doomed to fail because we have in the past. Do you have so little hope that you deny there's a possibility humanity can change for the better?

@Emosaur 1. We're talking about the Bible. Hence when I said "According to the Bible..."

2. I'm sure an omnipotent being can create a paradox so therefore it is possible.

3. Again telling me what hypothetical Christians believe. I don't believe humans are doomed. You just said you don't believe they are doomed. So therefore you can't accuse God of making us fail if we could still change for the better.

@Emosaur 1. Well the world isn't a happy and safe place now because humans don't want it to be. That's the point. Humans could all just share and get along.

2. Prove an omnipotent being exists? How would one go about that?

3. Yes you can. You made several accusations about God.

@Emosaur 1. Cool

2. Cool

3. Cool

Short and sweet. We're getting more efficient at this lol

@Qwerty14 You made the room amd put us in there so ultimately you are to blame.

@Qwerty14 I am a mortal and do not have the ability to increase the ration to feed the rest then I share my food with them. If I don't, I would see myself as cruel. But God, whom is supposed to creator of universe which also include food, have the ability to multiply the food. Even one of his son's miracle is able to feed 5000 with 5 loaves of bread and two fishes. I am sure God certainly help those people in the room

@Entwistle Even though there is an abundance of resources and instructions? You don't think each individual should be responsible for his or her own actions?

@JBird But there's already an abundance. Would creating more help the situation? Or would the greedy just hoard more for themselves? Plus humans wouldn't learn to share or work together if everyone had everything handed to them. Doesn't that also factor in?

@Qwerty14 [quote]
Plus humans wouldn't learn to share or work together if everyone had everything handed to them.
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How did you come to that conclusion? That's not always true. Sharing or even concern for humanity doesn't need to be taught. Some people can be born sympathetic, others maybe not. We cannot judge people.

@JBird You skipped the bit before it. Do you wanna answer my questions?

[quote]How did you come to that conclusion?[/quote]

It's the logical conclusion. Why share when you don't need to share. Just ask for more.

@Qwerty14 [quote]
Would creating more help the situation? Or would the greedy just hoard more for themselves?
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Yes, it would certainly help them to survive more days. For the second question, it depends on the person.

@JBird Well this person has already hoarded the first lot of food. What makes you think they wouldn't just do it again? Their behaviour shows a lack of empathy for their fellow man. Do you believe they'll magically change opinions overnight?

@Qwerty14 [quote]
It's the logical conclusion. Why share when you don't need to share.
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I don't think it's logical. If that was true, there wouldn't be supermarket, convenient stores or even charity or donations. I still don't understand where this is going to because we are talking about God, not mortals

@JBird But you're thinking of the real world where there is a need to share. I'm talking about the hypothetical world where God just hands you everything. Then there's no need to share. That is the logical conclusion

First of all, you asked people what would they do. Now you changed the protagonist to a greedy person because you felt it's not going in your way? @Qwerty14

@JBird If the person isn't being greedy then why isn't everyone being fed? There is enough food for everyone. Either he is being greedy and people are starving or he isn't being greedy and there is no problem. You seem to really not grasp this hypothetical

@Qwerty14 well, people who used to share because they feared God would curse them or something wouldnt certainly care about other people. People who do it out of spite of love for humanity whether or not they believe in God, would share. Then there are inherently selfish people who would hoard food to themselves. The situation vary with each people.

@Qwerty14 [quote]
If the person isn't being greedy then why isn't everyone being fed?
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Maybe, there isn't any food or any other reason. We wouldn't know. If you are trying to compare this situation to God, I think it's not working. Because God is supposed to be the creator of universe. He is supposed to be flawless and could feed the whole population if he can create the whole universe